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"#Mozilla can press on with independent subprojects such as #Thunderbird owners #MZLA #Technologies #Corporation. The popular #Electron #framework is based on #Chromium. It's too late to change that, even if maybe #Servo may one day offer an #alternative. But if #Thunderbird sucked in #Libpurple, it wouldn't matter if #Slack and #Teams and so on used #Electron, as Thunderbird could talk to the servers directly."
"But pointing at what we'd like to see is attempting to #treat the #symptoms and not the #disease. Is there a way to #encourage Mozilla to be an #organized, #focused, #professional #business, with #eyes keenly set on a clearly defined #goal? Perhaps that's the wrong #question. Perhaps that shouldn't be the goal at all. For all that the #Linux business is #huge, no #company #develops the #kernel. They all #cooperate on it. The #Linux #Foundation #funds it, but doesn't really #guide it."
"One #observer has been #spectating and #commentating on Mozilla since before it was a foundation – one of its original co-#developers, #JamieZawinksi. He has been accurately #cataloging Mozilla's #failings for #years."

#deltachat Desktop can now run on #Firefox and Safari, entirely avoiding #Electron and Chromium! It's an intended side-effect of the "porting Desktop to #Tauri" effort led by @treefit which aims to provide a non-Electron packaged version of the Desktop. Here is a video and deep dive into what's working on regular browsers now, and what's missing for a full Web version: delta.chat/en/2025-05-22-brows

delta.chatDelta Chat: Delta Chat Desktop, but running inside of Firefox 🦊
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@jbowen

To me, the best things about it are the keyboard and the screen.

I also like the fact that it's currently my slowest computer, not counting a Raspi zero W (not zero 2) sitting on a shelf somewhere, or assorted microcontroller boards here and there.

If it doesn't run well on the PBP, then to me, it's just not good software.

Signal (and I guess any #Electron apps) are particularly absymal.

📱 Kiwix PWA 3.5.8 is out now! (also available as Electron app for Linux/Windows)

What's new:

* Dark/light theme toggle button
* Customizable toolbar
* Fixed article links bug when switching ZIMs
* Security updates & bugfixes

Available on:

* Web: pwa.kiwix.org
* Desktop: kiwix.github.io/kiwix-js-pwa/a
* Microsoft Store (Win10/11): apps.microsoft.com/detail/9P8S

For more, see github.com/kiwix/kiwix-js-pwa/

#Kiwix#Offline#PWA
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@janvlug @ph00lt0 @nicorikken @bert_hubert

The main issue is the lack of a standardized Webview on #Linux. #KDE has #QtWebengine, #GNOME has #WebkitGTK and they are not "just #Chromium".

#Electron ships a stripped down and rarely updated version of Chromium, which is pretty horrendous, for RAM etc.

At least for #FOSS apps it should be possible to convert them to webview apps somehow, but for that we first need one.

On Android... Apps are tiny

I like Theo's take on #Electron in:

youtube.com/watch?v=WdmfFmwsGD

Pretty much all his views and opinions are sound, and I agree. Sure there are many really crap uses of it, but that is not Electron's fault.

I also agree about that the risk is #Chromium gets stronger as the defacto web-standard, controlled largely by one company. But that isn't Electron's fault either.

The lack of alternative browser engines are, and currently #Mozilla is screwing up the only real alternative there is today.

youtube.com- YouTubeEnjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

If you've wondered what's going on with the recent #mozillafirefox #firefox kerfuffle @gardiner_bryant has posted a video that is a good catch-up and throws a little water youtu.be/m_TdA7AdTww Though my job as a software developer means I use a lot of browsers and platforms for testing my non-testing use is currently : #Safari in #MacOS, FireFox on #windows and #LibreFox on #Linux. So I'm chrom(e/ium) free... except all those pesky #Electron apps ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

youtu.be- YouTubeEnjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

There is no native storyboard solution on Linux. The best solution for Linux is #Krita Storyboard Docker. docs.krita.org/en/reference_ma

The most popular solution is a #Electron app that uses web technologies.
wonderunit.com/storyboarder/ and according to #GitHub page, the last update was 3 years ago. github.com/wonderunit/storyboa

And every other solution usually recommends using an online service that tends to charge a monthly fee.