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#deltachat

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Replied to holga

@hpk
With librewolf and ublock, I was able to read the letter well.

Matrix may be more mature, especially in terms of group management compared to #Deltachat. But Deltachat is similar with all its features (except for group management) and, to be honest, clearer and easier to use.
Logging in is easy even without a recovery key, and the connection is encrypted on the device and while transmission. As described in the letter, metadata is only generated during transmission, but not permanently. Overall, Deltachat is secure and the most straightforward for private users. That's my experience and opinion.

deltachat is here in the fediverse: @delta

@matthew

Помните, я недавно просил помочь с тестированием #DeltaChat? Ну отозвавшиеся наверняка помнят. Тогда мы получили довольно странные результаты. Решив раз и навсегда понять, что происходит, я достал свой старый, любимый, надёжный как пулемёт Максим, смартфон OnePlus 7T. Поставил на него и на мой текущий смартфон (OnePlus 10 Pro) DeltaChat и стал регистрироваться на разных chatmail-серверах и на разных почтовых серверах и сравнивать результаты.

В общем, если говорить коротко, обнаружилось, что DC на OnePlus 10 Pro не может подключиться ни к одному почтовому серверу по SMTP!!!. К любому chatmail-серверу подключается на ура.
OnePlus 7T отлично подключается к чему угодно.

Я вообще не могу представить, почему такое может происходить, но результат исследования однозначен — у меня новый адрес DC.

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@methuselah in #xmpp the groups are centralized, server dies, group dies, Conversations is super nerdy, not really on the mainstream level in UI/UX, and in iOS the situation is WAY WORSE with #Monal, in #Conversations groups are rarely encrypted and you get a pretty on your face encryption selector to disable encryption or choose encryption flavor, this is REALLY BAD

I will not even talk about the multi-device support and possibility to easily move your profile between OSs like on #DeltaChat

Replied to Blake Leonard

@blake at first you might not be able to select with which address you write, but having a main address for sending, but in the near future #DeltaChat will get "Multi-Transport" support meaning basically what you want: several inboxes in a single chat list, so you dream might become true in a way, the idea is to have more resilience in case one of the addresses/server goes down, you can keep chatting with the other accounts

We do not aim for #deltachat to be another social media app. No #ai summaries or suggestions. No public directory of contacts. No discovery via outside identifiers (mobile phone or email). Just you and your contacts privately messaging, in a solid simple user interface on all platforms. End-to-End encryption enforced on two layers. #chatmail relays know and retain nothing, no content or metadata. #webxdc apps allow for custom interactions on top of chats.

Contributors and donations welcome!

I think the biggest thing I want in #DeltaChat is a "unified inbox" where, unless I specifically exclude it, chats for all of my profiles are listed. Any duplicate contacts would show the profile icon on the list, and if I have multiple accounts in the same group for some reason, it would let me switch between them in the composer.

Seems like it would be rather simple? There's probably some implementation detail I'm missing.

(For a more advanced implementation: you'd be able to start with one easy unified inbox, and make other unified inboxes if you need to, selecting and deselecting as you see fit. Mostly the idea would be you can have multiple personal ones, multiple work ones, maybe a few for volunteer groups: maybe some of them use an online name, maybe you have a deadname on one profile and a chosen name on another, maybe you have individual profiles for each group you join... So you might have your personal ones grouped, your work ones grouped, and your volunteer ones grouped... but for most people, myself included, a singular unified inbox with exclusion should work just fine!)

%username%, какие можешь посоветовать группы в #deltachat на русском с техническим уклоном с более, чем с 5-ю анонимусами? (Знаю только "Беседку".) Гуглятся только ссылки i.delta.chat на личные аккаунты. Ботов предлагать не надо :)

И да, #персеиды кто-нибудь уже наблюдал? В какую часть света там смотреть, на север примерно в #РФ ?
@rf @Russia

This week in #FDroid (TWIF) is live but late to toot:

* Slow updates? There's a reason, or 2️⃣
* Don't be surveilled, engage in our research 🔭
* Using #Calyx #CalyxOS? Read now! 💔
* #DeltaChat hits v2, #ArcaneChat soon™
* #NeoStore finally upgrades to Index-V2
* #NewPipe in your 🚗 ? Maybe...
* #Wesnoth is back 🐴 ⚔️
& 164 more updates
- 4 apps archived

Saturday reading break: f-droid.org/2025/08/07/twif.ht

f-droid.orgShadow of the cycle | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App RepositoryThis Week in F-DroidTWIF curated on Thursday, 07 Aug 2025, Week 32F-Droid coreLooks like the past still haunts us. We’ve covered, or better said uncovered, t...

Signal and Matrix were founded in popular opposition to the email system but End-to-End encrypted instant messaging via emails works now, and reliably, with #deltachat V2 app releases, and with #chatmail relays forming a growing secure email network that minimizes metadata and enforces TLS and E2EE messaging.

You can't really argue with working code, can you?

Contrary to popular belief SMTP and DKIM and IMAP are no holy ingredients and can be improved upon btw. See eg github.com/chatmail/relay/issu

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@romadiz algunas ventajas:

- una misma app con la misma calidad/experiencia en múltiples plataformas

- mayor seguridad: no es posible desactivar el cifrado accidentalmente

- los grupos están cifrados

- los grupos son descentralizados, en #XMPP dependen del servidor donde se crea, si este muere, muere el grupo

- #DeltaChat es más #offlinefirst, puedes incluso crear grupos mientras estás offline

por supuesto también xmpp tiene sus ventajas como llamadas que hacen timbrar el celular,etc

DeltaTouch v2.9.0 is out, bringing the security upgrade as described in the Delta Chat blog delta.chat/en/2025-08-04-encry

Some UI changes such as shortcuts to recently used apps in chats are still to be implemented in DeltaTouch, but all the security/encryption related points in the blog post apply to DeltaTouch as well.

Version numbering has been aligned with the official clients, see chaos.social/@delta/1149722645

delta.chatDelta Chat: Delta Chat V2: a major security upgrade, beautified contact profiles, new email action and direct app access in chats
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Several people noticed and wonder about our new #deltachat version numbering scheme: it changed for all apps! #chatmail Core rust library uses 2.X with incrementing X. And apps use 2.X.Y with Y being a numbered release for a core version. Therefore, any app release embeds the core library version which is helpful for understanding and debugging interoperability issues between clients. Others pointed out this is close to "pride versioning" ... We are fine with that :) pridever.org/

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