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Tushar Chauhan

I have been a linux user for more than 20 years, and a Debian user for a good 15 years now. For the first time, I feel like something is off. systemd feels like a Frankenstein that does not belong. It makes the system feel brittle and vulnerable.

Perhaps some more reading is in order. But I am also starting to look into things like Devuan.

Thoughts? Interesting takes and links?

#linux#systemd#debian
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Da lazy beardude

Had to add:

sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin ~amd64
virtual/dist-kernel ~amd64
sys-fs/zfs ~amd64
sys-fs/zfs-kmod ~amd64

to /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords just to be able install the really latest kernel in Gentoo.

I think I'm 90% done setting up this thingamajig. Just have to add some packages to make gaming work.

Gonna take a break for now.

#gentoo#linux#openrc
Da lazy beardude

I think it's about time I ditched Arch Linux for Gentoo. Arch has gotten easier and I've gotten bored with it. Once I've settled to Gentoo, I'd have Void Linux scratch my "Arch Linux" itch

I mean, I've already explored Linux distros with different inits. I don't think anything can stop me when I have Arch, Gentoo, and Artix wiki handy

gentoo.org/

www.gentoo.orgWelcome – Gentoo LinuxThe website of Gentoo, a flexible Linux distribution.
#gentoo#archlinux#linux
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int*dmi;*dmi=0 // --> WHY2025

tangentically related: I like doing this with #OpenRC initfiles:

extra_commands="pull"

pull() {
	service "$name" stop
	cd "$service_dir"
	su "$command_user" -c 'git pull --recurse-submodules'
	service "$name" start
}

removes a significant chunk of effort when I already have tested the update elsewhere and know that it’s fine. comfy.

Chris Huck :freecad: :ubuntu:

In 2021, I built the 3D printed #OpenRC F1 car. It opened the gates to #3dPrinting RC vehicles, which is both fun and frustrating when you break parts that you have to print again.

When my fan boat recently failed to go in the snow, I remembered seeing snow conversions for the F1 car. Earlier this week, I printed these skis and paddle wheels. I tested it out today, and it works good in the shallow snow of my driveway but the skis need to be longer. They flip over too easily.

Da lazy beardude

Out of all Artix Linux init "siblings", OpenRC is the slowest to boot, at 6 seconds. Subsequent reboots doesn't help either.

Not much has changed in RAM & disk usage though.

It's alright. I'm also the slowest and the laziest out all my siblings. It usually takes me 1 - 2 hours to finish my meals while they're done in like 5 - 10 minutes lol

I just like to savor the flavors, y'know? Plus I eat a lot more than them.

#artixlinux#artix#openrc
Eugenia L

I was so happy to see a modern OS use just 270 MBs of RAM with XFce. And it's FAAAAAST. But very soon afterwards, it let me down.

Alpine Linux is ridden with dependency issues and other random bugs that made it impossible for me to use it as a desktop. Maybe it's great as a server, but it has not seen much love on the desktop side. Maybe it's a human resources problem. More info in the conversation here: reddit.com/r/AlpineLinux/comme

#alpine#linux#alpinelinux
Gabriele Svelto [moved]

I just updated my tutorial on how to enable Secure Boot on #Gentoo using GRUB. I hadn't been paying attention and the script I provided to automatically update the bootloader would only work under #OpenRC. I've now added a second script that automatically updates the bootloader when you install a new kernel that works under #SystemD too. Enjoy!

setphaserstostun.org/posts/sec

Just another blog · Secure Boot on Gentoo with shim & GRUBSetting up Secure Boot on Gentoo Linux using the shim and GRUB bootloaders
Merula Passeri

My #Devuan #OpenRC experiment is going really well. So far everything I need daily is working fine. One annoying thing though, when using OpenRC you have to use `openrc-shutdown` to shutdown and reboot. Desktops however seem to use the regular `shutdown` which basically just logs you out. Does anyone know how to teach desktops to use OpenRC's shutdown? I've thought about replacing /sbin/shutdown and /sbin/reboot by bash scripts which call `openrc-shutdown`, but I'm a bit scared of doing that 😅 .

Charadon

Okay, I finally understand #OpenBSD's syslogd. I still prefer #OpenRC's `output_log` and `error_log` parametes though.

I've never been a fan of having one monolithic (Or in syslog's case, a few monolithic) log files. Atleast it's not as bad as #systemd's binary log file with journalctl imo

I like just managing plaintext files, and it's a bit annoying having to configure syslog.conf to put each daemon's output into it's own log file.

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LogicalErzor

So I got telnet working in debug shell (postmarketOS now uses NCM rather than RNDIS and seems like there’s an upstream USB regression as well) but still struggling to get telnet/ssh after debug-shell

I think I’m supposed to wait till #OpenRC boots up all the way for ssh access? Got through some problems (enabled UNIX config and increased ramdisk offset)

The current problem I’m facing is OpenRC hanging on “SVCNAME=dmesg”. /etc/init.d/dmesg is a simple script. Maybe missing kernel configs? Dunno

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mgorny-nyan (he) :autism:🙀🚂🐧

"""
#OpenRC […] has been in a state of bureaucratic decay for a decade now, having all been hoarded by a random corporate contractor about as responsive to the outside universe as OpenOffice (while taking up as much space; they're the entire reason for the farcical metadata/AUTHORS file in the main package repo).
"""
lwn.net/Articles/964589/ (cited only as the context that provoked the recollection)

This reminds me of the story. The modern #Gentoo copyright policy (AKA #GLEP76) has been a long time in the making. More specifically, as you can guess from the author list, it has been a long time in fruitless debate, followed by a short period of creative activity. In its original form, it has been unanimously approved both by the Council and the Trustees in September 2018.

bugs.gentoo.org/653118

Not a month later, once we've actually started requiring signoffs per the new policy, one of the Council members requested a "transitional period", to give their company's legal team more time to approve it. Like, they've actively influenced the policy, they've actually voted for approving it, but they didn't mean for it to actually apply at the time — and they've never bothered telling anyone about the problem earlier. Fortunately, they've managed to get a quick approval and started using it.

bugs.gentoo.org/667602

As a side effect of using it, attribution lines to said company started popping up in random ebuilds that their employees touched (malicious compliance or just corporate bullshit?). This heralded a maintenance nightmare. Two months later, metadata/AUTHORS was proposed as a compromise to stop that.

bugs.gentoo.org/672962

All these years later, I'm thinking that we had a simpler solution to all these, and many later problems, at our disposal back then…

lwn.netAdding systemd to postmarketOS [LWN.net]
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