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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@joel I mean, #SystemD wasn't done by #Poettering because he had no hobbies - far from it.

SystemD, like #Wayland and #PipeWire is a "necessary evil" because the preexisting solutions are slow, not adaptive, cumbersome or just don't work well at all (i.e. mixed (#DPI & #HiDPI) screens with #X11 are just broken!

  • People had years if not over a decade to fix those but they didn't and it's clear that a new & clean slate was necessary...
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1 Dipl. fckng Ing.*

@wikinaut

Crazy.

Ich bin ja gespannt, was sich in Zukunft etablieren wird.

Poettering hat sich schon 2014 dazu Gedanken gemacht, als das klassische Paketsystem an seine Grenzen stiess (Revisiting How We Put Together Linux Systems), was schlussendlich zur Verbreitung der schrecklichen Flatpak- und ähnlicher Containerredundanz geführt hat.

Kürzlich hat er ein weiteres Essay veröffentlicht (Fitting Everything Together):

0pointer.net/blog/fitting-ever

0pointer.netFitting Everything TogetherPosts and writings by Lennart Poettering
#flatpak#poettering#linux
trashHeap :verified_gay:

Considering that most major #linux distros (corporate or not) are #Microsoft's direct competitors in the server market; does that not make it more than a little awkward that #Poettering is going to be both a Microsoft employee and the chief developer on #systemd ?

I know Microsoft is no stranger to hiring existing FLOSS devs. But systemd is a pretty major bit of system level middleware that is ever absorbing more of the linux stack, right?

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Free Pietje 🇵🇸 🍉

What I missed the first time around, but got alerted* to due to various links in /dev/ not working or set up (properly).

From #Poettering's comment I referenced earlier:
"pid 1 sets up those extra /dev symlinks"

So it's not udev which manages /dev/ but pid 1 ... well ... at least partly.

*) From bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrep :
"You might want to just fork udev while it still sort of works outside systemd."

Michael Biebl asking Ben Hutchings to weigh in on the discussion ... that's something else

bugs.debian.org #975017 - udev: missing /dev/stdin etc. - Debian Bug report logs
Free Pietje 🇵🇸 🍉

Who could possibly have foreseen this happening? 🙄
"if people want to use udev from other init systems they should do this on their own"

#Poettering claiming "do one thing and do it well" is peak irony
github.com/systemd/systemd/com

IOW, systemd is now a hard requirement for udev.

I already ran into this on my server, bc "Predictable Network Interface Names" became unpredictable and the udev rule started behaving erratic. 🙄

Various issues in systemd's own repo and #Debian is also a victim.

🖕 🖕 🖕

github.comudev: set fewer process properties · systemd/systemd@6b2229cOn systemd systems we generally don't need to chdir() to root, we don't need to setup /dev/ ourselves (as PID 1 does that during earliest boot), and we don't need to set the OOM adjustm...
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