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Debacle<p>This is a <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/parable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>parable</span></a>.</p><p>🧔🏻 Let's reduce the suffering of animals! Let's go <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/vegan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>vegan</span></a>!</p><p>👩🏾 Cool! I've been vegan for years and I'm so happy that you're joining us!</p><p>🧔🏻 I created a menu to promote transition to veganism: fruits, vegetables, nuts, and <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/fish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fish</span></a>.</p><p>👩🏾 Thanks for your effort, but fish isn't vegan. Why not replace it with <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/legumes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>legumes</span></a>?</p><p>🧔🏻 You're being such an extremist! With this attitude, we'll never make the world a better place!</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/federation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>federation</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/digitalSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>digitalSovereignty</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/freeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>freeSoftware</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/instantMessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>instantMessaging</span></a></p>
doboprobodyne<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ip6li" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ip6li</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedifreu.de/@cryptgoat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cryptgoat</span></a></span> </p><p>For users who just want instant messaging &amp; group-chat, is it worth mentioning Delta Chat?</p><p>It leverages email, so all it needs is for the user to make an email address for it, which is an achievable goal for most people.</p><p><a href="https://github.com/deltachat" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">github.com/deltachat</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Obviously I accept Signal is the easiest to "sell", because it has voice/video calling, and we can just say it's the one US cabinet members use, so it's sort of a "household name".</p><p><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/messaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>messaging</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/openSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openSource</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/instantMessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>instantMessaging</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/degoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>degoogle</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/demeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>demeta</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/defacebook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>defacebook</span></a></p>
Jiří Eischmann<p>I am becoming increasingly doubtful of <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a>'s background and direction. <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a> is owned by <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a> and just announced that it will introduce ads. So, it looks like I'm left with <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a>. The former has better UX, but it's centralized and US-based. The latter is a bit clumsy but decentralized and EU-based. Neither is perfect, but they are the closest to it for me.</p><p><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/instantmessenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>instantmessenger</span></a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/instantmessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>instantmessaging</span></a></p>
IT News<p>WhatsApp Introduces Ads in Its App - They will appear in only one part of the Meta-owned messaging service, it said. The move ... - <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/technology/whatsapp-ads.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">nytimes.com/2025/06/16/technol</span><span class="invisible">ogy/whatsapp-ads.html</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/data" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>data</span></a>-mininganddatabasemarketing <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/advertisingandmarketing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>advertisingandmarketing</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/computersandtheinternet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>computersandtheinternet</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/mobileapplications" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mobileapplications</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/onlineadvertising" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>onlineadvertising</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/instantmessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>instantmessaging</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/metaplatformsinc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>metaplatformsinc</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/zuckerbergmarke" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zuckerbergmarke</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/instagraminc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>instagraminc</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/socialmedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>socialmedia</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/whatsappinc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>whatsappinc</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/facebookinc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>facebookinc</span></a></p>
Debacle<p>Just updated <a href="https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5</span><span class="invisible">f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9</span></a></p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/IM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IM</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/InstantMessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InstantMessaging</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Zephyr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zephyr</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/SMS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMS</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
Farooq | فاروق<p>Considering that both <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> and <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> re-invented <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> communication while <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>email</span></a> was already there, makes <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> more interesting.</p><p>The fact that DC didn't invent a new protocol for <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/InstantMessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InstantMessaging</span></a> and just used the protocol which was already there, and also that how far has it gone, is mind blowing.</p><p>At first when I was chatting with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@treefit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>treefit</span></a></span>, I already was developing a Matrix client(<a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/chooj" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chooj</span></a>) for <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KaiOS</span></a> and it was the only decentralized IM which I was using and investing resources into. I was skeptical but then I thought it would be a good idea to invest into DeltaChat, as well as Matrix. His argument, of course, wasn't good. He was arguing that we need multiple options in the case one of decentralized IMs fail. However this convinced me to give DC a try.</p><p>But now, I see that DC has very unique advantages no other messenger has. Their moto is "playing the long term" game. Unlike Matrix which suddenly exploded, DC moves very slowly. As an advantage, DC is much more consistent, hassle free, has less bugs(in my experience) and has better UI/UX than many Matrix clients. But it has got several disadvantages. Matrix has tons more features which DC hasn't got or has added them just recently such as editing messages and reactions. And it is not yet suitable for public groups, like the ones we've got in the Matrix network.</p><p>Overall, if you want secure chat with friends or family or other people you trust, DeltaChat is a very good option and the experience is very good. And I haven't seen something like <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> in any other IM. However if you want something like <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> guilds for a community, Matrix is the way to go.</p><p>BTW, DC currently lacks funding, thanks to what <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> did with <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/OpenTechnologyFund" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenTechnologyFund</span></a>(<a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/OTF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OTF</span></a>). If you can help in anyway, financial or otherwise, it will be extra valuable at this point. </p><p>Edit:</p><p>BTW, here are websites of webxdc and DC:</p><p><a href="https://delta.chat" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">delta.chat</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br><a href="https://webxdc.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">webxdc.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/IM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IM</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Messenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Messenger</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/MessagingApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MessagingApp</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/opensourceIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>opensourceIM</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>freesoftware</span></a></p>
IT News<p>Here’s What Meta Argued to Fend Off Monopoly Claims in Landmark Trial - The social media company called only a handful of witnesses as it sought to prove it help... - <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/technology/meta-antitrust-trial-arguments.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">nytimes.com/2025/05/21/technol</span><span class="invisible">ogy/meta-antitrust-trial-arguments.html</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/mergersacquisitionsanddivestitures" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mergersacquisitionsanddivestitures</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/computersandtheinternet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>computersandtheinternet</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/federaltradecommission" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>federaltradecommission</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/contenttype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>contenttype</span></a>:service <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/instantmessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>instantmessaging</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/socialmedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>socialmedia</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/facebookinc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>facebookinc</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/e" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>e</span></a>-commerce</p>
heise online English<p>Telegram founder: France bans Pawel Durow from business trip to the USA</p><p>Telegram CEO under investigation in France can't leave without permission. His request to travel to the US was denied by French authorities amid ongoing probe.</p><p><a href="https://www.heise.de/en/news/Telegram-founder-France-bans-Pawel-Durow-from-business-trip-to-the-USA-10391058.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&amp;utm_source=mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">heise.de/en/news/Telegram-foun</span><span class="invisible">der-France-bans-Pawel-Durow-from-business-trip-to-the-USA-10391058.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&amp;utm_source=mastodon</span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/InstantMessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InstantMessaging</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Messaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Messaging</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Mobiles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mobiles</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a></p>
heise online<p>Telegram-Gründer: Frankreich untersagt Pawel Durow Geschäftsreise in die USA</p><p>Gegen den Chef des Telegram-Messengers wird in Frankreich ermittelt, er darf nur mit Genehmigung ausreisen. Für einen Flug in die USA wurde die nicht gegeben.</p><p><a href="https://www.heise.de/news/Telegram-Gruender-Frankreich-untersagt-Pawel-Durow-Geschaeftsreise-in-die-USA-10390947.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&amp;utm_source=mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">heise.de/news/Telegram-Gruende</span><span class="invisible">r-Frankreich-untersagt-Pawel-Durow-Geschaeftsreise-in-die-USA-10390947.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&amp;utm_source=mastodon</span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/InstantMessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InstantMessaging</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Messaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Messaging</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Mobiles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mobiles</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a></p>
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Lately I'm having issues with #Signal. Messages are delivered up to 2 hours later. It looks like it happens more often on mobile networks compared to WiFi, but delays are experienced on the latter too.

What would be a valid IM app alternative? No 🇺🇸 products preferably.

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