#VietnameseRevolutionaries

Ms. Que Banh10 January 1973, negotiations broke down when <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Kissinger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kissinger</a> demanded the release of all <a href="https://beige.party/tags/AmericanPOWs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AmericanPOWs</a> in North Vietnam once a peace agreement was signed, but offered no guarantees about <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietCong" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietCong</a> prisoners being held in South Vietnam.Thọ stated: "I cannot accept your proposal. I completely reject it". Thọ wanted the release of all prisoners once a peace agreement was signed, which led Kissinger to say this was an unreasonable demand. Thọ, who had been tortured as a young man by the French colonial police for advocating Vietnamese independence, shouted: "You have never been a prisoner. You don't understand suffering. It's unfair". Kissinger finally offered that the United States would use "maximum influence" to pressure the South Vietnamese government to release all Viet Cong prisoners within sixty days of a peace agreement being signed. On 23 January 1973, at 12:45 pm, Kissinger and Thọ signed the peace agreement.<a href="https://beige.party/tags/AsianMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AsianMastodon</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Vietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Vietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseRevolutionaries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseRevolutionaries</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/ColonialResistance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ColonialResistance</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Communist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Communist</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/AsianHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AsianHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/SouthEastAsia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SouthEastAsia</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Viet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Viet</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Geopolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Geopolitics</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/USWarOnVietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#USWarOnVietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/LongLiveVietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LongLiveVietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseSovereignty</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/LearnHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LearnHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/TootSEA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TootSEA</a>

Ms. Que BanhIn his book “Our Vietnam: The War 1954–1975,” U.S. journalist A.J. Langguth says that despite Kissinger’s protestations for Tho to be quiet, during one session of the talks he shouted at Kissinger for over an hour:“For more than ten years, America has used violence to beat down the Vietnamese people-napalm, B-52s. But you don’t draw any lessons from your failures. You continue the same policy. Ngu xuan! Ngu xuan! Ngu xuan!”The translator refused to tell Kissinger what Ngu xuan meant (massively stupid) for fear of causing offence.Luu Van Loi, who was with Tho at the conference as a member of the negotiating team, wasn’t happy with <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Kissinger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kissinger</a> either. “Kissinger was dodgy; he always brought up irrelevant matters at the start of meetings, and only mentioned the important stuff out for discussion at night. He must have thought that the old Le Duc Tho was sleepy and tired. But he knew nothing about Tho! The longer the negotiation went, the more alert Tho got.”Kissinger seemed to agree with Luu Van Loi when he expressed his astonishment: “Sometimes he talked for hours straight. I said, ‘I’ve heard this countless times,’ but Tho responded ‘You’ve heard it countless times but you haven’t remembered it, let me repeat…’”Thọ told Kissinger at their first meeting that "Vietnamization" was doomed, dismissively saying in French: "Previously, with over one million U.S and Saigon troops, you have failed. Now how can you win if you let the South Vietnamese Army fight alone and if you only give them military support?"In April 1970, Thọ broke off his meetings with Kissinger, saying that there was nothing to discuss. An attempt by Kissinger to talk to Thọ again in May 1970 was rejected with a note reading "The U.S. words of peace are just empty ones"In July 1971, Kissinger taunted Thọ with news that President <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Nixon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Nixon</a> would be visiting China soon to meet <a href="https://beige.party/tags/MaoZedong" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MaoZedong</a>, telling him that the days when the North Vietnamese could count of the supply of Chinese arms were coming to close. Thọ showed no emotion: "That is your affair. Our fighting is our preoccupation, and that will decide the outcome for our country. What you have told us will have no influence on our fighting".2 May 1972, Thọ had his 13th meeting with Kissinger in Paris. The meeting was hostile; the North Vietnamese had just taken Quang Tri City in South Vietnam, which led Nixon to tell Kissinger "No nonsense. No niceness. No accommodations". During the meeting, Thọ mentioned that Senator William Fulbright was criticizing the Nixon administration, leading Kissinger to say: "Our domestic discussions are no concern of yours". Thọ snapped back: "I'm giving an example to prove that Americans share our views". When Kissinger asked Thọ why North Vietnam had not responded on a proposal he sent via the Soviet Union, Thọ replied: "We have on many occasions said that if you have any question, you should talk to directly to us, and we shall talk directly to you. We don't speak through a third person".August 1972, Kissinger promised Thọ that he would pressure Nguyễn Văn Thiệu to resign if Thọ agreed to a peace deal before US presidential elections. Thọ told Kissinger that the timetable for Thiệu's departure was no longer an immediate concern & he wanted some $8 billion in reparations for the war damage. Kissinger told Thọ that he wanted to tell the world about their secret meetings since 1970 to give the impression that Nixon was making progress on peace in Vietnam, a suggestion Thọ rejected, saying it's not his job to assist Nixon's reelection campaign.20 November 1972, Kissinger met Thọ again in Paris. Kissinger no longer aimed at secrecy & was followed by paparazzi as he went to a house owned by the French Communist Party where Thọ was waiting for him. Kissinger announced the Americans wanted major changes to the peace agreement made in October to accommodate Thiệu, which led Thọ to accuse him of negotiating in bad faith. Thọ: "We have been deceived by the French, the Japanese and the Americans. But the deception has never been so flagrant as of now".Putting more pressure, Nixon told Kissinger to break off talks if Thọ wouldn't agree to changes he wanted. Kissinger told Nixon: "While we have a moral case for bombing North Vietnam when it does not accept our terms, it seems to be really stretching the point to bomb North Vietnam when it has accepted our terms and when South Vietnam has not". December 1972, talks had broken & Nixon decided to resume bombing North Vietnam. After the Christmas bombings of 1972, Thọ was in particularly savage mood towards Kissinger.8 January 1973 in a house in the French town of Gif-sur-Yvette, Kissinger arrived to find nobody at the door to greet him. When Kissinger entered the conference room, nobody spoke to him. Sensing the hostile mood, Kissinger speaking in French said: "It was not my fault about the bombing". Before Kissinger could say anymore, Thọ exploded in rage, saying in French: "Under the pretext of interrupted negotiations, you resumed the bombing of North Vietnam, just at the moment when I reached home. You have 'greeted' my arrival in a very courteous manner! You action, I can say, is flagrant and gross! You and no one else strained the honor of the United States""You've spent billions of dollars and many tons of bombs when we had a text ready to sign". Kissinger replied: "I have heard many adjectives in your comments. I propose that you should not use them". Thọ answered: "I have used those adjectives with a great deal of restraint already. The world opinion, the U.S. press and U.S. political personalities have used harsher words".<a href="https://beige.party/tags/AsianMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AsianMastodon</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Vietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Vietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseRevolutionaries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseRevolutionaries</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/ColonialResistance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ColonialResistance</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Communist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Communist</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/AsianHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AsianHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/SouthEastAsia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SouthEastAsia</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Viet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Viet</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Geopolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Geopolitics</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/USWarOnVietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#USWarOnVietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/LongLiveVietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LongLiveVietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseSovereignty</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/LearnHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LearnHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/TootSEA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TootSEA</a>

Ms. Que Banh<a href="https://beige.party/tags/French" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#French</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/colonial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#colonial</a> authorities imprisoned him from 1930-1936 & again from 1939-1944. The French imprisoned him a "tiger cage" cells in the prison on Poulo Condore (Côn Sơn Island) in the South China Sea. Poulo Condore was the harshest prison in all of French <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Indochina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Indochina</a>. During his time in the "tiger cage", Thọ suffered from hunger, heat, torture & humiliation. He was a teenager & these prison experiences hardened him.After his second release he returned to Hanoi in 1945 to help lead the <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietMinh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietMinh</a>, the <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseIndependence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseIndependence</a> organization, as well as a revived communist party called the <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnamWorkersParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnamWorkersParty</a>. He was senior Viet Minh official in southern Vietnam until the <a href="https://beige.party/tags/GenevaAccords" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GenevaAccords</a> of 1954. From 1955 he was a member of the Politburo of the Vietnam Workers’ Party, or the Communist Party of Vietnam(renamed in 1976). During the Vietnam War (1955–75) Tho oversaw the <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietCong" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietCong</a> insurgency that began against the South Vietnamese government in the late 1950s. He carried out most of his duties during the war while in hiding in South Vietnam.“The Nobel Committee made a big mistake,” he said in an interview with UPI a decade later. “This is a prize for peace. The thing here is, who is the one that has created peace? The ones who fought against the U.S. and established peace for the country are us, not the U.S. However, the Nobel Committee has put the invader and the invaded as equal – that is something I cannot accept, and that is the reason why I declined the prize.” When asked if he’d accept the prize now that the country is free, he replied, “Yes, but only if the prize is awarded to me only.” <a href="https://tienphong.vn/uy-ban-giai-nobel-da-sai-lam-dang-tiec-post611381.tpo" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://tienphong.vn/uy-ban-giai-nobel-da-sai-lam-dang-tiec-post611381.tpo</a>Lê Đức Thọ's "insolence" towards Western politics helped to gain his country control over Saigon, Vientiane & ousted a pro-Western government in Phnom Penh. Within Vietnam, Lê Đức Thọ is remembered as a revolutionary leader who played a pivotal role in the country’s struggle for independence & reunification. He is honored as a key figure in Vietnam’s history.Despite his involvement in peace negotiations, Lê Đức Thọ remains a controversial figure, among those who view him as a symbol of the repressive communist regime in Vietnam. The communist government’s human rights abuses & suppression of dissent have led to criticism of his role in the post-war government.<a href="https://beige.party/tags/AsianMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AsianMastodon</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Vietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Vietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseRevolutionaries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseRevolutionaries</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/ColonialResistance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ColonialResistance</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Communist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Communist</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/AsianHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AsianHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/UShistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UShistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/SouthEastAsia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SouthEastAsia</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Viet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Viet</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Geopolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Geopolitics</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/USpoli" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#USpoli</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/USWarOnVietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#USWarOnVietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/LongLiveVietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LongLiveVietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseSovereignty</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/LearnHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LearnHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/TootSEA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TootSEA</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/GlobalSouth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GlobalSouth</a>

Ms. Que BanhLê Đức Thọ (14 October 1911 – 13 October 1990), was a <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Vietnamese" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Vietnamese</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/revolutionary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#revolutionary</a> general, diplomat & politician. Tho was the first <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Asian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Asian</a> to be awarded the <a href="https://beige.party/tags/NobelPeacePrize" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NobelPeacePrize</a>, jointly with US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in 1973, for their work on Paris Peace Accords, but refused the award. <a href="https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1973/tho/facts" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1973/tho/facts</a>"However, since the signing of the Paris agreement, the United States and the Saigon administration continue in grave violation of a number of key clauses of this agreement. The Saigon administration, aided and encouraged by the United States, continues its acts of war. Peace has not yet really been established in South Vietnam. In these circumstances it is impossible for me to accept the 1973 Nobel Prize for Peace which the committee has bestowed on me. Once the Paris accord on Vietnam is respected, the arms are silenced and a real peace is established in South Vietnam, I will be able to consider accepting this prize. With my thanks to the Nobel Prize Committee please accept, madame, my sincere respects." <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20110403165243/http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2010/12/11/why-le-duc-tho-refused-his-nobel-peace-prize/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20110403165243/http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2010/12/11/why-le-duc-tho-refused-his-nobel-peace-prize/</a>"Unfortunately, the Nobel Peace Prize Committee put the aggressor and the victim of aggression on the same par. ... That was a blunder. The Nobel Peace Prize is one of the greatest prizes in the world. But the United States conducted a war of aggression against Vietnam. It is we, the Vietnamese people, who made peace by defeating the American war of aggression against us, by regaining our independence and freedom." <a href="https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/12/17/Personality-Spotlight-Le-Duc-Tho-Vietnams-poet-revolutionary/1693535179600/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/12/17/Personality-Spotlight-Le-Duc-Tho-Vietnams-poet-revolutionary/1693535179600/</a><a href="https://beige.party/tags/AsianMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AsianMastodon</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Vietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Vietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseRevolutionaries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseRevolutionaries</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/ColonialResistance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ColonialResistance</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Communist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Communist</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/AsianHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AsianHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/SouthEastAsia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SouthEastAsia</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Viet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Viet</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/Geopolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Geopolitics</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/USWarOnVietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#USWarOnVietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/LongLiveVietnam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LongLiveVietnam</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/VietnameseSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VietnameseSovereignty</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/LearnHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LearnHistory</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/TootSEA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TootSEA</a>

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