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Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKI ditched <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> (which appears to be also losing features with the paid app!) for <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OsmAnd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OsmAnd</a> Plus Pro.Earlier in the year I got a Google Play gift card for my birthday. I don't play mobile games so it seemed worth getting, especially as its currently the same price as the paid <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TomTom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TomTom</a> app)the app (which I'd used before for recording <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GPX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GPX</a> tracks of long drives on a separate device) has way more features *and* an active <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> community with repos, issue tracker etc.Speed monitoring and warnings work on <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/AndroidAuto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AndroidAuto</a> (with more configurable options). The main feature it lacks is live traffic, but not that big a loss as there's 0 way of avoiding jams at peak time in my region anyway due to limited routes in and out of it!<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/navi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navi</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GNSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNSS</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/satnav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#satnav</a>

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKInterestingly <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> pushed an update a few days ago on <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> but still didn't ask for their 0,99€ (nor did they add or remove any features, and they don't even publish release notes).Worryingly though on Reddit folk with new IOS app (subscription) are claiming speed warnings have disappeared which would be a big feature loss..There's a hard limit to how much they can enshittify though as users would just go to TomTom (either the free Amigo app or the paid one which is about 14-19€ per year (I'd mistakenly thought it was per *month*) but even the paid app lacks features (blaming Android Auto rules which doesn't seem to be 100% true)Hopefully the MagicEarth devs realise this, given their HQ is in NL I'd expect a fair few of them could be ex TomTom staff..

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKIt seems <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> are at least listening to the user community and holding off on the switch to a paid app for <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> until they can find some payment method that doesn't require Google service (I hope this doesn't mean that development stalls until they can get their revenue stream)IMO if fhey are charging for it the app they should have a full website portal with payment facility *and* access to support with a ticketing system and facility to add crowdsourced map updates (rather than expecting endusers to work out which is <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSM</a> and which is <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Foursquare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Foursquare</a> or other third parties), and not relying just on email or worse, Reddit) - basically all that <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TomTom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TomTom</a> *used* to have not that long ago but abandoned...<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/navi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navi</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/maps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#maps</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GNSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNSS</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenStreetMap</a>

Matthieu Roman 🍉 ⏚<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@vfrmedia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@vfrmedia</a> Recently I found many double entries on <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> maps. Devs told me it's because both OSM data and their third party data are showing up. Really disappointing because in my hometown's map I see old restaurants appear that have closed for years, places that have the wrong location... It seems <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> is going the wrong way. Now that you have to pay for using it, I expect a much better accuracy. But as you say, <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/CoMaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CoMaps</a> still lacks basic features (for example a choice between the fastest and the shortest route).

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKSo far <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> seems least worst of the <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/navi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navi</a> apps to work with <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/AndroidAuto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AndroidAuto</a> - although devs appear very cagey about exactly which version(s) of <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenStreetMap</a> they are using, and where they are getting their shop / business data from which makes correcting it a bit harder - I've still not heard anything about the spelling mistake I reported (other than an auto acknowledgement) and as its closed source they only have email as a contact method.It seems to be OSM based but with proprietary datasets tacked on and "crumbs from the table" of their commercial projects (providing navi solutions to transport networks in Germany)Even so its a better app than many paid ones, especially after <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TomTom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TomTom</a> has become increasingly enshittified, and <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/CoMaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CoMaps</a> still lacks features..

Dirk<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kuketzblog</a> Da ich mittlerweile wieder sehr viel mit Fahrrad unterwegs bin, bin ich wieder zu <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/Osmand" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Osmand</a> zurückgekehrt. Die Navigation mit <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> taugt wirklich nur für Straßenverkehr, abseits davon wird es im besten Fall chaotisch. Viele Wege, über die seit über Jahrzehnte offizielle Fahrradrouten gehen, fehlen halt. Des Weiteren bleiben mir die Entwickler / Firma suspekt, mittlerweile ist die Webseite etwas informativer, aber nicht in den Belangen, dass ich mit denen eine Geschäftsbeziehung eingehen möchte.

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKAlas, <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/CoMaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CoMaps</a> fell at the first hurdle in my test of <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Navi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Navi</a> software - it doesn't show <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/speed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#speed</a> limit nor <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GNSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNSS</a> speed on the screen on <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/AndroidAuto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AndroidAuto</a> - a big missing feature! <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OrganicMaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OrganicMaps</a> (which it is forked from) doesn't have this either, there's an open issue for it but 0 reply / acknowledgement from the devs..(Curiously the speeds are shown if you use the device standalone, and other Android Auto apps do have this display so its not a Google UI restriction..)So I will stick to <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> for the moment..

tschenkel<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kuketzblog</a> Dear Magic Earth team,I am a very happy user of your navigation software and fully support your decision to go for a paid only approach. In fact, I think the price is more than fair.However, another aspect of the announced system will make it impossible to continue using it. And that is the requirement to pay using the Google Store.Your product is one of those used by the rising population of de-googled Android users. In fact, I have not met anyone using it who is not using it to avoid Google.Having to install Google Services on the phone is a price many of your customers, me included, won't be able or willing to pay.Please introduce another payment option by credit card, so I can continue to use and recommend your product.Thank you very much.Best wishes,....<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/degoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#degoogle</a>

das nächste bitte<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kuketzblog</a> Hab soeben über das Kontaktformular auf <a href="https://www.magicearth.com/contact" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.magicearth.com/contact</a> die Bitte um eine alternative Bezahlmöglichkeit für die bald anfallenden 99 cent für die Nutzung von <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a> hinterlassen. Je mehr schreiben umso eher kann was passieren.Anmerkung: Favorisieren ist super. Teilen noch besser 😉

fly-Ing<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kuketzblog</a> Ja, schade eigentlich - anscheinend scheint es ein größerer Aufwand zu sein, einen eigenen Webshop aufzusetzen und google ist halt einfach der bequemere Weg. Und leider sind schon einige (gute) Karten- und Navigationsapps eingegangen. Weil viele bis nahezu alle google maps nutzen. <a href="https://mastodon.bachgau.social/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bachgau.social/tags/navigation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navigation</a>

Kuketz-Blog 🛡Magic Earth wird künftig kostenpflichtig – grundsätzlich nachvollziehbar. Problematisch wird’s allerdings für Nutzer ohne Google-Dienste: »You can manage or cancel your subscription through the App Store (iOS) or Google Play Store (Android) at any time.« Tja. 🙄<a href="https://www.magicearth.com/pricing" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.magicearth.com/pricing</a><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/gps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gps</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/navigation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navigation</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#android</a> /kuk

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKAnyone here know what arrangement the <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> devs have with <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenStreetMap</a> ? Been using app for a while and downloaded latest UK <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/map" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#map</a> updates, but in spite of statements its an OSM basemap they do not reflect latest OSM for my area (an entire new housing estate is missing on MagicEarth but present on OSM).Is there some kind of validation that occurs before the OSM maps appear? There is 0 info about how this process works on MagicEarths website, and as its closed source there is no public GitHub repo or issue tracker <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/navi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navi</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GIS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GIS</a>

Kuketz-Blog 🛡Viele Dienste wie Google Maps erfassen Bewegungsprofile und nutzen Standortdaten kommerziell. Es geht auch anders: Datenschutzfreundliche Alternativen bieten Navigation ohne Tracking – teils komplett offline, quelloffen und werbefrei. Eine Übersicht für Android & iOS (plus: BRouter für Planungsprofis) hier. 👇 <a href="https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#navigation" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#navigation</a><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/navigation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navigation</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/organicmaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#organicmaps</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/osmand" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#osmand</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/brouter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#brouter</a>

🌈 Lascapi ⁂Hi, I'm wondering if there's a way for multiple <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#apps</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#android</a> to share data. And I think there isn't. But maybe I'm wrong !It would be so that my favourite places in <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/osmand" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#osmand</a> are accessible in <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/CoMaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CoMaps</a> or <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> and vice versa. Without exporting / importing of course!<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/PersonalData" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PersonalData</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/question" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#question</a>

பாRTHIபNRadtour von <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Dortmund" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Dortmund</a>-<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Nordstadt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Nordstadt</a> nach <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Kamen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kamen</a>-<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Methler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Methler</a> und zurück.Aufgrund der Übernahme durch einen italienischen Hai und der Entlassung von Mitarbeitern habe ich <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Komoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Komoot</a> verlassen.Als erstes habe ich eine Route von <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/bikerouter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bikerouter</a>.de erstellt. Positiv ist, dass bei bikerouter.de 3 alternative Routen vorgeschlagen werden. Ich habe verschiedene Routen für Hin- und Rücktour in MagiEarth importiert.Positiv ist, dass <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> eine saubere Darstellung und detaillierte Navigation bietet. Das Negative ist, dass ich zweimal falsch fahre, es keine Warnung gibt und keine Alternativroute von MagicEarth kommt.Nach dem Ende der Tour habe ich die beiden gpx-Routen in <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/gpx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gpx</a>.studio zusammengefügt.Fotos erstellt von <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Fairphone4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fairphone4</a> mit <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/gCam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gCam</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/cycling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cycling</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Radfahren" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Radfahren</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/biketoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#biketoot</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Fahrrad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fahrrad</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Rad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Rad</a>

david<a href="https://mastodon.online/@iode" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@iode</a> I use <a href="https://mastodon-belgium.be/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> when driving by car. <a href="https://bird.makeup/users/osmandapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@osmandapp</a> used using my bike or on foot because of the special layers available for cycle routes and trails. I prepare my cycling / walking tours with <a href="https://en.osm.town/@bikerouter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bikerouter</a> where the exact same layers are available with a handy editor to find the best routes.

M1k3 :mastodon: :fediverse:Quick update on my post about <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> 🗺️ : following a comment from <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Tommie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Tommie</a> (thanks ! 🙏), I checked <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenStreetMap</a> data and realized the issue with the bike lane wasn't MagicEarth's fault, the newly inaugurated trolley path simply hadn’t been added to <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/OSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSM</a> yet. So nothing against Magic Earth here. 👌

M1k3 :mastodon: :fediverse:Je viens d'installer l'application <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> (après avoir lu le post de <a href="https://framapiaf.org/@sebsauvage" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@sebsauvage</a> [<a href="https://framapiaf.org/@sebsauvage/114405027652376299" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://framapiaf.org/@sebsauvage/114405027652376299</a>]). Je suis agréablement surpris par cette application ! 🌍 La fonction transport en commun est vraiment top, surtout quand on sait qu'il n'est pas facile de trouver une app sur <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/FDroid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FDroid</a>. 🚇Petit point à améliorer : l'aspect vélo 🚴‍♂️, il ne prend pas encore en compte toutes les voies cyclables. Mais dans l'ensemble, c'est une belle découverte ! 👍<a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/GPS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GPS</a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/OSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSM</a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenStreetMap</a>

Lisa<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/boycottusa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#boycottusa</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/alternativeEU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#alternativeEU</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/googlemaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#googlemaps</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a>Je ne sais pas vous, mais quand j'ai décidé de dire bye bye 👋👋 à Google Maps 🇺🇸, j'étais absolument persuadée que j'allais me retrouver avec une appli moche et nulle 😅.En fait, ce n'est absolument pas vrai.Option n°1 : Magic Earth 🇪🇺 🇳🇱⏩ le design est impeccable 🤩 ⏩ horaires des trains et infos sur la circulation en temps réel ⏩ passages piétons, feux, panneaux de signalisations, bornes, toilettes... tout y est<a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.generalmagic.magicearth" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.generalmagic.magicearth</a>

NorbertFalls jemand <a href="https://graz.social/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Google</a> <a href="https://graz.social/tags/Maps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Maps</a> ersetzen möchte, kann sich <a href="https://graz.social/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> ansehen. Kommt aus Südeuropa, hab ich nun mehrfach eingesetzt und funktioniert zuverlässig. Integriert sich auch perfekt in Android Auto.<a href="https://graz.social/tags/Navigation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Navigation</a> <a href="https://graz.social/tags/EuropeanAlternatives" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EuropeanAlternatives</a>

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