kari hoffman<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://neuromatch.social/@manisha" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>manisha</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/academicchatter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>academicchatter</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@Neurograce" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Neurograce</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/neuroscience" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>neuroscience</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/cogsci" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cogsci</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/cogneurophys" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cogneurophys</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/neurobuzz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>neurobuzz</span></a></span> </p><p>HOLY CRAP!! THANK YOU for the shameless plug part! I'm trying to collect references for clear examples of how to/how not to describe the LFP signal and related phenomena like oscillatory bouts as measured via LFP/EEG. i.e. not as causal agents per se, and not assuming specific local generator or pacemaker properties, for the very reason of degeneracy. Total <a href="https://neuromatch.social/tags/neurobuzz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>neurobuzz</span></a> worthy. I will use this for incoming trainees and for classes.</p><p>You even point out one curious example we have to wrestle with: the <a href="https://neuromatch.social/tags/hippocampus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hippocampus</span></a> theta <a href="https://neuromatch.social/tags/oscillations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>oscillations</span></a> (arguably should not be singular) that are displaced or missing from where they should be in primates (psst, you cited Jutras et al., 2013 but missed contemporaneous Hoffman et al., 2013). A major barrier to understanding what the heck is going on, I think, is due to a failure to properly appreciate the different levels of detecting field potentials, or, materials with which we detect them, and the implications for the underlying generators. <br> <br>You have such lovely examples of how field potentials (oscillatory or not) can be generated. More <a href="https://neuromatch.social/tags/EEG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EEG</span></a> / <a href="https://neuromatch.social/tags/LFP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LFP</span></a> people need to be familiar with this.</p>