#FediverseIsNotMastodon

Jupiter RowlandWhen you still haven't noticed that the Fediverse is more than just Mastodon; CW: long (almost 600 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse beyond Mastodon meta

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/@JustBobtholomew" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">JustBob</a> Discord has completely warped the term "server" for entire generations of Internet users. On Discord, "server" means "chatroom". In the Fediverse, "server" doesn't mean "chatroom". It means "<a href="https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/what-is-server/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">server</a>". A computer. For example, <a href="https://www.trentonsystems.com/en-us/resource-hub/blog/what-is-a-rack-server" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">a rack computer with no screen and no keyboard and no mouse bolted into a server rack at a data centre</a>. Or <a href="https://www.xda-developers.com/turn-old-laptop-into-home-server/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">an old laptop that someone had lying around</a> or <a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">a Raspberry Pi mini-computer</a> running at someone's home, connected to their landline. On each one of these, a big or small Twitter can be running (Mastodon). Or a wholly different Twitter (Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, Sharkey, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko...). (Here's the first important new thing for you to learn about the Fediverse: The Fediverse is not only Mastodon.) Or a Facebook with a side of a blog and a cloud server (Friendica, (streams), Forte). (Here's the second important new thing for you to learn about the Fediverse: The Fediverse is not only short-form microblogging. Look at this comment. Look at what I've done. Embedded links. Bold type. Impossible on Mastodon. But possible elsewhere in the Fediverse.) Or a Facebook meets WordPress meets Google Cloud Services meets even more stuff on top (Hubzilla; this is where I am). Or an Instagram (Pixelfed). Or a YouTube (PeerTube). Or a Twitch (Owncast). Or a Reddit (Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed). Or a Goodreads (BookWyrm). Or whatever. There are over 150 different server applications in the Fediverse. mastodon.social, where you are, is only one of over 10,000 big and small Twitters of the same kind (Mastodon). If Mastodon was like Discord, all 10,000+ Mastodon servers would run in one and the same gigantic data centre in the USA, owned by Mastodon, Inc. And they would all be property of Mastodon, Inc. If the Fediverse was like Discord, all 30,000+ Fediverse servers would run in one and the same gigantic data centre in the USA, owned by Mastodon, Inc. And they would all be property of Mastodon, Inc. Also, they would be fully identical in functionality. But as I've said above: They're all running on their own separate machines. With their own separate owners. And the different server applications have different developers, and they are being developed independently from one another. Okay, now comes the kicker: These server applications are not walled up against one another. Not only are all instances of the same server applications (e.g. Mastodon) connected to each other, but all instances of one server application are also connected to all instances of all the other server applications. Imagine you're on Twitter. But your new friend is on Facebook. You can't follow a Facebook user on Twitter, and you can't follow a Twitter user on Facebook. In the Fediverse, you can. You can be on Twitter. And follow a Facebook user. Directly from Twitter. Without a Facebook account. Only that they aren't named Twitter and Facebook in the Fediverse. Twitter is named Mastodon or Pleroma or Akkoma or Misskey or Calckey or Firefish or Iceshrimp or Sharkey or Catodon or... There are dozens of Twitter alternatives in the Fediverse. Well, and Facebook is named Friendica or Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte. You can be on Mastodon. And you can follow Friendica accounts. From Mastodon. Without a Friendica account. This comment is a very good example. You are on <a href="https://joinmastodon.org" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mastodon</a>, created by @<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/Gargron" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Eugen Rochko</a> in 2016 as an alternative to Twitter that aimed to be as close to Twitter as possible. The server that you're on, <a href="https://mastodon.social" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">mastodon.social</a>, is owned by Mastodon, Inc. and running on one or multiple rack servers in San Francisco, California, USA owned by <a href="https://fastly.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fastly</a>. I am on <a href="https://hubzilla.org" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a>, created by @<a class="" href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin 🖥️</a> in 2012 by forking his own <a href="https://friendi.ca" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Friendica</a> from 2010, and currently mainly maintained by @<a class="" href="https://hub.somaton.com/channel/mario" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mario Vavti</a> and @<a class="" href="https://hub.volse.no/channel/harald" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Harald Eilertsen</a>. Hubzilla has got nothing to do with Mastodon whatsoever. It started out as an alternative to Facebook, but not a clone, rather better than Facebook, with full-blown long-form blogging capability and a built-in file storage, and it has been enhanced greatly in functionality even beyond that. The server that I'm on, <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/siteinfo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Netzgemeinde</a>, is owned and administered by @<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/buckaroo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mark Nowiasz</a>, who has no affiliation with the Hubzilla developers, and running on a rack server in Nuremberg, Germany owned by <a href="https://www.netcup.com/en" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Netcup</a>. And yet, you can see this comment coming from Hubzilla on Mastodon. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Server" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Server</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Instance" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Instance</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Pleroma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Akkoma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Misskey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Forkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkeys" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Forkeys</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Calckey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Calckey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Firefish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Firefish</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Iceshrimp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Iceshrimp</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Sharkey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Sharkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Catodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Catodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Meisskey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Meisskey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Tanukey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Tanukey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Neko" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Neko</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pixelfed" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Pixelfed</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=PeerTube" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">PeerTube</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Owncast" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Owncast</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Lemmy</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%2Fkbin" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">/kbin</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mbin" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mbin</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=PieFed" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">PieFed</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=BookWyrm" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">BookWyrm</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NotOnlyMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">NotOnlyMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseIsNotMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonIsNotTheFediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">MastodonIsNotTheFediverse</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://flipboard.social/@mike" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mike McCue</a> What are the chances that the ActivityPub side will get full (or any) support for Pleroma and its forks, Misskey and its forks, Friendica and other things that use the Mastodon client API? Or even server applications that can speak ActivityPub, but that don't have the Mastodon client API implemented? I sincerely hope that Surf isn't built against only Mastodon so hard that it's impossible to add more than just incidental and unsupported compatibility with anything that isn't Mastodon. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ActivityPub" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">ActivityPub</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NotOnlyMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">NotOnlyMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseIsNotMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonIsNotTheFediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">MastodonIsNotTheFediverse</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://indieweb.social/users/tchambers" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Tim Chambers</a> It's sad that it's always Bluesky, Threads and Mastodon. The Fediverse is only represented by Mastodon, only Mastodon and nothing but Mastodon, as if there's nothing else. Always. The Fediverse's quality in microblogging is always measured in what vanilla Mastodon can and can't do. If Mastodon lacks something, the Fediverse lacks it. But the Fediverse is not only Mastodon. Not even in terms of microblogging. Pleroma is microblogging, part of the Fediverse and federated with Mastodon. Akkoma is microblogging, part of the Fediverse and federated with Mastodon. Misskey is microblogging, part of the Fediverse and federated with Mastodon. Firefish is microblogging, part of the Fediverse and federated with Mastodon. Iceshrimp is microblogging, part of the Fediverse and federated with Mastodon. Sharkey is microblogging, part of the Fediverse and federated with Mastodon. Catodon is microblogging, part of the Fediverse and federated with Mastodon. Mitra is microblogging, part of the Fediverse and federated with Mastodon. And that's only a selection. None of them are related to Mastodon. None of them have even a grain of Mastodon in them. They're fully independent developments. Feature-wise, they all blow Bluesky and Threads and Mastodon out of the water. In fact, if you want "the Fediverse", read, Mastodon to have a certain feature, Misskey probably has it right now. If Misskey doesn't, Iceshrimp or Sharkey may have it. And that doesn't say anything about the more Facebook-like and even more powerful parts of the Fediverse yet. If Mastodon wants to evolve, it will first have to catch up to the rest of the Fediverse. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Pleroma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Akkoma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Misskey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Firefish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Firefish</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Iceshrimp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Iceshrimp</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Sharkey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Sharkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Catodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Catodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NotOnlyMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">NotOnlyMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseIsNotMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonIsNotTheFediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">MastodonIsNotTheFediverse</a>

Jupiter RowlandIf you mean the Fediverse, don't say "Mastodon"! CW: long (almost 1,000 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse beyond Mastodon meta

Jupiter RowlandMy most recent introduction post as per August 7th, 2024; CW: long (xx,xxx characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse beyond Mastodon meta, alt-text meta, image description meta, content warning meta, hashtag meta

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.uno/@talksina" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Elena Brescacin</a> @<a href="https://eldritch.cafe/@Lucia" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">:sigil:🦇Luzífer🦇:sigil:</a> You must consider that not everyone is on Mastodon, that not everything else in the Fediverse is like Mastodon, and especially, that not everything else in the Fediverse has a text field labelled, "CW" or "Content Warning". Really not. (1/10) #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CW" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CW</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWs" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWs</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ContentWarning" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">ContentWarning</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ContentWarnings" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">ContentWarnings</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ContentWarningMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">ContentWarningMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NotOnlyMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">NotOnlyMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseIsNotMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonIsNotTheFediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">MastodonIsNotTheFediverse</a>

MiKlo:~/citizen4.eu$💙💛<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/GeekOrganic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@GeekOrganic</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/users/wariat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@wariat</a> No... jak będą tu instytucje publiczne i generalnie różne inne , które w realnym świecie do czegoś praktycznego są ludziom potrzebne to w naturalny sposób <a href="https://soc.citizen4.eu/search?tag=fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> urośnie. <a href="https://soc.citizen4.eu/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FediverseIsNotMastodon</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://ma.fellr.net/@fell" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Felix Urbasik</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.social/@trunksapp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">trunks (Android, iOS & Web)</a> Especially since not the entire Fediverse works like Mastodon. On Mastodon, you only receive posts from those whom you follow and posts which mention you unless you turn the latter off. But I'm not on Mastodon. I'm on Hubzilla which has nothing in common with Mastodon technologically, which is ten months older than Mastodon, having been developed since almost six years before Mastodon, and which has been federated with Mastodon continuously since Mastodon was launched. I received your post, @<a href="https://ma.fellr.net/@fell" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Felix Urbasik</a>, because it was boosted by @<a href="https://mastodon.social/@fediversereport" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fediverse Report</a>. But I received your comment on your own post as well as your comment, @<a href="https://mastodon.social/@trunksapp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">trunks (Android, iOS & Web)</a>, because Hubzilla sends me all replies to each post that has ever appeared in my channel stream (= personal timeline).. Neither of you mentioned me. I don't follow either of you. And yet, I received both of your comments. After a post has shown up in my channel stream, regardless of where it comes from, I receive all comments that are made on that post afterwards. This is perfectly normal, intentional, by design, hard-coded and a behaviour that pre-dates Mastodon in the Fediverse by almost six years. Friendica behaves the same, and so does (streams), the only one of the three that isn't older than Mastodon. Thus, replying to someone who isn't a mutual connection is perfectly normal on all three, too, and part of their culture, and it has always been. This has nothing to do with entitlement. From my point of view, these options introduced to Trunks are similar to the oft-requested option for Mastodon to hide all posts with over 500 characters. But if it's toxic if Friendica or Hubzilla or (streams) users do what at least the users of the former two have been doing since days before Mastodon, then these instance types, these very server applications are inherently toxic not only by culture, but also by technology. And their very developers are toxic because they refuse to make them more like Mastodon. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Trunks" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Trunks</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=TrunksApp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">TrunksApp</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NotOnlyMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">NotOnlyMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseIsNotMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonIsNotTheFediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">MastodonIsNotTheFediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ReplyGating" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">ReplyGating</a>

Jupiter RowlandIt was most likely a reply guy who told you that the Fediverse is not Mastodon; CW: Fediverse meta, Fediverse beyond Mastodon meta, mansplaining mentioned, reply guys mentioned

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/danie10" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Danie van der Merwe</a> <blockquote>thing is though there are also many existing alternatives to Mastodon already on the Fediverse, so why fork it?</blockquote> Because you still don't know there's more to the Fediverse than Mastodon. I think at least every other Mastodon user doesn't. Or if you do, you think it's all just alternative graphical frontends to the same stuff that Mastodon is. That's why people still develop stuff only against Mastodon. Bonus points for slapping "Fediverse" on it. That's why people still fork Mastodon to add features that are available just about everywhere else. And that's probably why @<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@thenexusofprivacy" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">The Nexus of Privacy</a> wants to fork Mastodon into what he seems to think will be the absolute pinnacle of privacy, security and permission control in the Fediverse, blissfully unaware that it's not only an attempt at re-inventing the wheel, but a far cry from what @<a class="" href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin 🖥️</a> has been developing since 2012. That was four years before Mastodon. Seriously, I keep seeing people wish for features in "the Fediverse" (read, Mastodon), features that are readily available elsewhere in the Fediverse. Some of them have been since before Mastodon was even made. CC: @<a href="https://public.mitra.social/users/tallship" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">tallship</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NotOnlyMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">NotOnlyMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseIsNotMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonIsNotTheFediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">MastodonIsNotTheFediverse</a>

Thomas (aka Papa Dragon)Hihi. <a href="https://mstdn.strafpla.net/@chris" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"></a> <a href="https://mstdn.strafpla.net/@chris" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">chris@strafpla.net</a> a écrit <a href="https://mstdn.strafpla.net/@chris/110255538133198273" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">publication</a> qui suit Mon, 24 Apr 2023 21:53:19 +0200 Duty calls on the Fediverse <a href="https://mstdn.strafpla.net/tags/Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> <a href="https://mstdn.strafpla.net/tags/ActivityPub" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> <a href="https://mstdn.strafpla.net/tags/Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> <a href="https://mstdn.strafpla.net/tags/XKCD" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#XKCD</a> #<a class="" href="https://caselibre.fr/search?tag=MastodonIsNotTheFediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">MastodonIsNotTheFediverse</a>  #<a class="" href="https://caselibre.fr/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseIsNotMastodon</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mas.to/@666k9s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Stevie Cat, Daisy Dog & Betty</a> So I guess you're one of those who have joined Mastodon in the second Twitter migration wave in November 2022, and who still "know" that the Fediverse is only Mastodon. Their nice and cosy and fluffy Mastodon. Well, then I've got a very very uncomfortable and upsetting truth to reveal to you: The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. It is more than just Mastodon. There's a whole lot more stuff in the Fediverse, and all of it is connected to Mastodon just like Mastodon instances are connected to one another. For example, there are dozens of other Twitter-like microblogging projects. Mastodon forks such as Glitch or Hometown. Pleroma. Pleroma forks such as Akkoma. Misskey. Dozens of Misskey forks such as Firefish, Iceshrimp, Sharkey, Catodon, Hajkey, Meisskey etc. There are "Reddit clones" like Lemmy or /kbin. There is the "Instagram clone" Pixelfed. There is the YouTube stand-in PeerTube. There is the Twitch stand-in Owncast. There are the "Medium clones" WriteFreely and Plume. There is the "Goodreads clone" BookWyrm. There are the Facebook alternatives Friendica and (streams) as well as Hubzilla which goes well beyond being a Facebook alternative. And a lot more. All this is in the Fediverse, and all this is connected to Mastodon, whether you want or not. It's normal. It's intended. It's the very idea behind the Fediverse. And it has always been the idea behind the Fediverse. Look at my mentions, how weird they look. Look at my hashtags, how weird they look. Look at this post and how it exceeds 500 characters. Look at my bold type. Look at my italics. All stuff that Mastodon can't do. But how can I possibly do it if Mastodon can't do it? Because I'm not on Mastodon. I'm on Hubzilla. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon instance. Hubzilla is not even a Mastodon fork. Hubzilla is developed completely independently from Mastodon. And Hubzilla is almost a year older than Mastodon. And yet, I can read what you've posted, and I can reply to you. That's because Hubzilla is part of the Fediverse, just like Mastodon is. And it has always been. CC: @<a href="https://foggyminds.com/profile/shiri" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Shiri Bailem</a> @<a href="https://hachyderm.io/@byjp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">JP</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.art/users/eishiya" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">eishiya</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Pleroma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Akkoma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Misskey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Firefish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Firefish</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Iceshrimp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Iceshrimp</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Sharkey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Sharkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Catodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Catodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hajkey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Hajkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Meisskey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Meisskey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Lemmy</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=kbin" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">kbin</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%2Fkbin" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">/kbin</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pixelfed" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Pixelfed</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=PeerTube" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">PeerTube</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Owncast" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Owncast</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=WriteFreely" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">WriteFreely</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Plume" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Plume</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=BookWyrm" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">BookWyrm</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NotOnlyMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">NotOnlyMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonIsNotTheFediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">MastodonIsNotTheFediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseIsNotMastodon</a>

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