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@ity #webxdc is a shared spec and joint impelemntation with eg #cheogram and #monocles ... It has nothing to do with proton. Webxdc apps are shared in a chat and run inside the messenger. Proton does not have a messenger. Webxdc apps work on all platforms that #webxdc messengers are released for, including @deltatouch , an Ubuntu based phone. DeltaTouch runs all webxdc apps including the realtime p2p ones. @lk108 is doing an incredible job :)

Hey #fedifriends for my personal business rather than buy another phone and another sim I decided to try out #jmpchat and I was really impressed.

I got a phone number, it works through their app: #cheogram, I messed up at the beginning but you can reach them through the same app I fixed everything in minutes.

It receive and make calls out of the box through #xmpp their service is based on #opensource software.

I must thanks Noa of #aksnoa show cause I heard about it on his podcast, and he was right.

You get a second number for $5 monthly, it uses your carrier data and nowadays all the majorities of the plan offer unlimited data, it is more convenient than a real second line.

Even though my new number is not ringing yet, I'd like the idea that you can turn off the service at your please.

The only limitation, but I consider a feature, is you cannot use that number with other famous messagging apps because they require a real sim number, hower cheogram is well integrated into #android and if I am able to convince my prospect customers to get an xmpp account we could do more like videoconferencing etc...

Really recommended! 👍

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@mastodonmigration Obligatory reminder that #Signal relies on a centralized and proprietary server, and does not belong here.

Users of #WhatsApp #Telegram #Discord #Signal and #Threema etc should use #XMPP instead, which is #FreeSoftware and federated.

Users - check out #Quicksy (Android and iOS), #Prav, #Conversations, #Cheogram, #MonoclesChat, #Gajim, #Movim, #Monal...

Self-hosters, check out #Snikket.

Learn more with this user's guide -
contrapunctus.codeberg.page/th

contrapunctus.codeberg.pageThe Quick and Easy Guide to Jabber/XMPP
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@rysiek @kkarhan @agturcz An awful lot of people say they've used #XMPP "a while back". But they're often unaware of the best of XMPP, and have an unfairly negative view of it.

Did you happen to try...

...#Snikket for hosting?
snikket.org

...apps like #Quicksy and #Prav which use phone numbers for easy onboarding, same as #Signal #WhatsApp or #Telegram?
quicksy.im
prav.app

...featureful clients like #Cheogram #MonoclesChat #Gajim #Movim etc?

Snikket ChatSnikket ChatSnikket is a simple, secure and private messaging app
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@delta Hi, please note that e2e encrypted private social network is already possible via XMPP (and notably via Libervia on which I'm working). Not many implementations are available yet though.

E2ee Chat is already available and widelty used, and I'm currently working on e-mail gateway (nlnet.nl/project/EmailXMPPgate), as is Cheogram lead dev (smtp.cheogram.com/)

Libervia still needs work to be easily usable, I'm on it.

nlnet.nlNLnet; Email <=> XMPP gateway

There are sometimes discussions about an end-to-end encrypted private social media e-mail chat network 🤯 Basically you could follow delta chat profiles and subscribe and probably react to their encrypted broadcasts ....

This and many other discussions are the "humus" on which #deltachat evolves and, for example, became a super-app: Android 1.50.3 spearheads direct #webxdc app picking via the "attach" chat action. Actually #cheogram and #monocles, both #xmpp messengers, released this first!

Seems like #Cheogram went the route of just pretending they upload the contact list to satisfy Google Play requirements.¹

I get why they are doing this. I've contemplated doing this myself but I’m absolutely not convinced that pretending your app is worse than it is is the right strategy here. Especially because the overwhelming majority of our users are not following us on social media and thus don’t have the context for why we would do this.

¹: blog.jmp.chat/b/march-newslett

I like #Wordle, but one of the things that bothers me about it is that it's centralized, so that the New York Times can try to track you and push you into accepting arbitrary terms and conditions. But one of the benefits of centralized Wordle is that it makes it easy to make it a more social game; each day, people get the same word to guess as each other, and they can compare scores and celebrate or commiserate with each other.

But while centralization makes it easier, it isn't necessary for the social aspect.

Yesterday, I discovered #Reactle, a #webXDC app, which you can play in #DeltaChat with an email account, or in #Cheogram or #Monocles, with an #XMPP account, either in a chat with yourself, or in a chat with someone else or a group (but I think everyone in the world gets the same word on the same day, even if they're playing in different chats). Everyone in the chat gets to play separately, and their results (number of turns) are automatically shared with the chat, and you can share the more detailed grid of coloured squares if you want.

As I understand it, webXDC apps are designed to be offline-first, so as soon as you've got the game in a chat, you should be able to play it even without an internet connection. And there's a neat curated list of other webXDC apps at webxdc.org/apps/, some of which let you collaborate, adding events to a shared calendar, for example.

CC: @delta @cheogram @monocles

webxdc.orgwebxdc apps
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@techprofessor @Monal @gajim @pidgin
@xmpp
#xmpp
I do not agree. Examples:
Android: #conversations , #monocleschat, #cheogram and #Snikket receive updates.
iOS: #Siskin, #snikket and #Monal receive updates. #Monal currently prepares a major update, that's why there were no frequent updates.
PC: #gajim and #dino are also updated regularly.
#MacOS: #beagle and #monal are also receiving updates.
Web client: #conversejs was updated yesterday.

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@foss_android #DAVx5 is one of those applications that are so crucial but don't often get mentioned, a great way to sync calendars, contacts etc.

#ViMusic is another, that is essentially #Spotify for free by accessing the Youtube music api which allows you to add playlists, albums, and artists, incredible!

#cheogram a beautiful and functional XMPP/jmp.chat client

and lastly #KISS launcher, a super quick and minimalistic android app launcher:) All thanks to #fdroid :)