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Farooq | فاروقIs there anyone hosting a <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> instance on a <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a>?If yes, how was your experience setting it up and maintaining it?<a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#email</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#openbsd</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/netbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#netbsd</a>

Delta ChatAmount of hours spent to keep a default <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> onboarding relay with 500k active addresses running: near zero. Glancing at stats sometimes: two million messages per day. CPU and IO load at 20% max. 500gb raid1 ssd meandering around 60 percent full. There is room for various optimizations but no big need currently. end-to-end encryption with metadata minimization is best if servers are boring. No clustering or enterprise license needed, no "SRE team" either. <a href="https://github.com/chatmail/relay/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/chatmail/relay/</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://mastodon.social/@r10s" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@r10s</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@devSJR" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@devSJR</a> note also that the default onboarding experience will not result into showing the envelope icon (or whatever icon we would choose alternatively) ever. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays reject incoming or outgoing cleartext messages. Those who opt into cleartext ("classic") email servers need to do a couple of extra clicks during onboarding anyway, and are likely to be able to learn about the meaning of the envelope icon.

devSJR :python: :rstats:<a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta</a>Any hint what to expect next?<a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a>

Delta ChatGood news! Our developments are back into full swing with major new releases expected throughout 2025 🥳After the shock February dry-up of funding grants we recently secured substantial private donations, wonderfully helping to hit the ground running 🧡<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> developments currently use ~600k EUR per year to support a dozen experts and contributors, to in turn help the wider contributor communities, as well as to realize major new features. <a href="https://delta.chat/en/donate" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://delta.chat/en/donate</a>

Timur SagdenovНаписал руководство по разворачиванию Chatmail relay для <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta@chaos.social</a> <a href="https://timursagdenov.neocities.org/deltachatrelayinstallguide" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://timursagdenov.neocities.org/deltachatrelayinstallguide</a> Принимаются исправления. <a href="https://social.cutie.team/tags/DeltaChat" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> <a href="https://social.cutie.team/tags/Chatmail" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Chatmail</a> <a href="https://social.cutie.team/tags/ChatmailRelay" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ChatmailRelay</a> <a href="https://mk.phreedom.club/@tech" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tech@mk.phreedom.club</a>

ginoHello <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta</a> ,I am using <a href="https://norden.social/tags/matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#matrix</a> in a professional and NGO context, and I am quite frustrated with its bugs. (broken search, frequent problems with encryption and signatures, ...)I am not yet suggesting <a href="https://norden.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> for these use cases because I am not sure if it is possible to have the following things with <a href="https://norden.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> / <a href="https://norden.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> . Is DeltaChat the right tool for these cases?

adb<a href="https://freeradical.zone/@babble_endanger" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@babble_endanger</a> I have a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> server (<a href="https://arcanechat.me" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://arcanechat.me</a>) with +4.7k users and it is using only around 1GB of RAM and the more important part, less than 10GB of storage! so I am using a cheap VPS of ~5$/month for it

Delta ChatTomorrow at <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/CFC25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CFC25</a> there are two sessions about <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a>: How to set up a <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relay server, an easy way to make your first timid steps with server administration: <a href="https://pretalx.c3voc.de/chaos-feminist-convention-2025/talk/TWRT8X/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://pretalx.c3voc.de/chaos-feminist-convention-2025/talk/TWRT8X/</a>And an overview on <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps, and how they bring back computing to your social context, locking out the tracking companies: <a href="https://pretalx.c3voc.de/chaos-feminist-convention-2025/talk/9VMYAJ/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://pretalx.c3voc.de/chaos-feminist-convention-2025/talk/9VMYAJ/</a>The webxdc talk will also be streamed, if you want to join remotely :)

Farooq | فاروقHey folks. I've noticed <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> hasn't got a page in <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Wikipedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wikipedia</a>. Do you know sources which would prove its notability so we could create a page for it?Boosts appreciated. If you don't know sources, someone else might.<a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/AskFedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AskFedi</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Email</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/IM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IM</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Messenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Messenger</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/chatmailrelay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmailrelay</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#opensource</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tech</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#technology</a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/software" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#software</a>

Delta ChatTwo of our teams just gave talks at the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@passthesaltcon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@passthesaltcon</a> 2025 conference in Lille: <a href="https://mastodon.ml/@Xeniax" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Xeniax</a> tells the story of "federated messaging" waves and her usable security research, emphasizing "availability" as a key issue <a href="https://passthesalt.ubicast.tv/videos/always-more-secure-analyzing-user-migrations-to-federated-e2ee-messaging-apps-trimmed/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://passthesalt.ubicast.tv/videos/always-more-secure-analyzing-user-migrations-to-federated-e2ee-messaging-apps-trimmed/</a> -- <a href="https://chaos.social/@hpk" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@hpk</a> starts off with prioritizing usable security and walks through <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> transport layer security goals and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> end-point security status, upcoming releases and prospective work on improving metadata and other goals <a href="https://passthesalt.ubicast.tv/videos/usable-end-to-end-security-with-delta-chat-and-chatmail/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://passthesalt.ubicast.tv/videos/usable-end-to-end-security-with-delta-chat-and-chatmail/</a>

Delta ChatInternet fragmentation is real in many countries and regions today but did you know that this "Sometimes-Internet" was the reality of the 1980ties when <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#email</a> evolved? <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays are cheap, secure, fast, ephemeral and resilient server setups for the growing Sometimes-Internet, using cryptography for planetary-scale interop:- E2EE-only, strict TLS+DKIM - no spam-check magic - delay/cut-off tolerant - messages removed after download - addresses removed if stale - push notifications

Andrew Gallagher<a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta</a> “The more ignorant … we make <a href="https://mastodon.ie/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays” - stupidity as a feature! 😜

Delta Chat<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> evolved according to needs of people under repression and continues to do so. The more ignorant and exchangeable we make <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays, the less their operators have to worry. Having metadata-less, fast and cheap instant messaging relays, that can also operate when 99% of the Internet vanishes in a region, is a key goal. Some way to go still but, already now, is there any other real-world solution that provides better service in internet-repressed regions in 2025?

Delta Chat<a href="https://ieji.de/@alandes" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@alandes</a> Most <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> operators we know off will not hand out data without a fight. But there are other operators who are afraid of brutal prosecution and here it helps that there is not much data on disk in a chatmail server. No need to risk imprisonment or worse.

adb<a href="https://dice.camp/@kyonshi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kyonshi</a> people using classic email servers will be able to write to you, but if you really want to properly be reached in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> with encryption which is required for people using public open-registration/anonymous <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> servers, you need to share your Delta Chat invite link or QR code, not only <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#email</a> address

Alejandro Baez<a href="https://mastodon.blaede.family/@cassidy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@cassidy</a> have you tried <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a>? Not affiliated, but has serve me pretty well. 😎Uses email as the protocol for communication. And barrier to entry is relatively low. If using what they call a <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> server anyway. 😅<a href="https://delta.chat/en/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://delta.chat/en/</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@fox84" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fox84</a> it's driven by the <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> community, with a sizable intersection of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/dletachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dletachat</a> contributors. Around 30 operators are discussing further developments and there is a separate core relay dev team who enhances the relay setup emplate as needed and in scope of resources. Financial contributions welcome. <a href="https://chatmail.at" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://chatmail.at</a>

Delta ChatWe'd like to remind everyone that a self-hosted <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relay is best shared in some wider than family circles. In crisis situations everbody does better when helping others. A typical 1gb RAM chatmail relay VPS for 5-10 eur per month supports 50k+ daily users.chatmail VPSes are stateless. You can wipe all disk state, reinstall and chatting will resume. Conversely, <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> does not keep or depend on any server state .Operators under pressure do not need to feel bad to hand over data.

Delta ChatWe are basically doing what <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#signal</a> and in particular moxie refused to do or declares impossible: federation. Both <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#email</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#activitypub</a> ecosystems are all about federation. However, <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> is vertically centralized in that all UIs use the same <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#rust</a> core which implements all networking, encryption, chat/group/message logic in a single centralized place. The now 40+ <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> mail relay network is driven from centralized code. At each level replication and federation is built in.

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