derSammler<p>Hat jemand Interesse an einem <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/AlphaServer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AlphaServer</span></a> 1000A? Der steht bei einem meiner Kontakte noch rum und könnte bei Cochem/Zell abgeholt werden. Leider sind bis auf die CPU keine Karten mehr drin, auch kein RAM und keine Festplatten. Ist aber eine gute Basis für einen Wiederaufbau.</p><p>Bei Interesse bitte eine private Nachricht schreiben, ich leite den Kontakt zwecks Preis-/Terminabsprache dann weiter.</p><p><a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/DEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DEC</span></a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/digital" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>digital</span></a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Alpha" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Alpha</span></a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/RetroComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RetroComputing</span></a></p>
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mattst88 :gentoo:<p>I've been on the lookout for faster RAM for my <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/AlphaServer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AlphaServer</span></a> ES47 (<a href="https://mattst88.com/computers/es47/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">mattst88.com/computers/es47/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>) for a few years.</p><p>It takes ECC RDRAM in large quantities, which is not common because as far as I can tell it was only ever used by this system and by some early high-end Pentium 4s.</p><p>The ES47 currently has 20x 1GB PC800 ECC RIMMs (16 GB effective), which allows the CPUs to run at 1150 MHz. With PC1066 the CPUs could run at 1300 MHz.</p><p>But even 10x 1GB PC1066 ECC RIMMs would cost $300+ on <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/eBay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eBay</span></a> today.</p>
Stephen Hoffman<p>Interesting write up on Oxide Computer in El Reg:</p><p><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/16/oxide_3000lb_blade_server/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theregister.com/2024/02/16/oxi</span><span class="invisible">de_3000lb_blade_server/</span></a></p><p>Oxide is aiming at on-premises cloud, and at racks.</p><p>This approach is what has become of server consolidation.</p><p>Particularly for your “base load” computing.</p><p>Racks are an interesting and oft-neglected topic in IT.</p><p>The enterprise vendors I'm familiar with always treated the racks and server and server rack mounting largely as an afterthought. At best.</p><p>And enterprise rack gear was too often awful. At best.</p><p>Lone exception: Apple had some of the best rack gear and rack mounting gear with Xserve, but then they got out of that business.</p><p>Much of what else I've met has been some combination of atrocious, inconsistent, and unavailable.</p><p>And getting stuff mounted was a struggle, absent server lifts or other tooling.</p><p>And the racks are, as Cantrill states, pretty much the fundamental unit for enterprise servers these days.</p><p>The Marvel-class AlphaServer GS1280 sorta-kinda did do an integrated design with their racks, and the whole of that computer and its constituent parts were all managed and maintained utilizing the in-cabinet network and the in-cabinet crossbars, but Marvel itself never became a unit of server construction, and while it had power distribution within the rack, it was never integrated with the data center power. The Marvel-class management UI and error management definitely needed work, though.</p><p><a href="https://www-e.uni-magdeburg.de/jschulen/urz_hpc/marvel/marvel_performance.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">www-e.uni-magdeburg.de/jschule</span><span class="invisible">n/urz_hpc/marvel/marvel_performance.pdf</span></a></p><p>The folks at HP and later as HPE went after blades hard, but they seemingly never adapted those designs to whole racks. Just big rack-mount blade boxes (c7000 was 10U, peaked at ~240 kg), and the HP/HPE BladeSystem communications interconnects and mezzanines were a whole ‘nother area of complexity. After the BladeSystem boxes faded, then with Moonshot and Apollo and some other servers.</p><p>Some vendors dabbled in containerized data centers, but seldom racks.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_data_center" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_</span><span class="invisible">data_center</span></a></p><p>Yes, some servers were configured for carrier-grade installs, too.</p><p>Oxide looks quite interesting, given the scale and scope if the integration they're aiming for, and not that I have anything that will likely ever need that much compute power. Looks like a fun development project, too.</p><p>cc/ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@bcantrill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bcantrill</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hp</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/hpe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hpe</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/alphaserver" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>alphaserver</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/digitalequipment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>digitalequipment</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/digitalequipmentcorp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>digitalequipmentcorp</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>apple</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/server" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>server</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/oxide" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>oxide</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/oxidecomputer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>oxidecomputer</span></a></p>
Stephen Hoffman<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@winocm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>winocm</span></a></span> All of the later “commodity hardware” Alpha boxes had ACPI, yes.</p><p>AlphaServer, AlphaStation, and a few of the lattermost DEC boxes from DEC 2000 (a.k.a DECpc AXP 150) and DEC 2100 onward. </p><p>The former, for those that have never met, DEC 2000 / Jensen / Culzean is very sensitive to its I/O configuration. Very sensitive. Very. Did I mention very?</p><p>The latter box (DEC 2100 / Sable) was renamed AlphaServer 2100.</p><p>I don’t know off-hand if DEC Multia used ACPI.</p><p>Alpha was all table-based for its configurations passed from AlphaBIOS/ARC console (Windows) or from SRM console (~everything else) to the host OS, including dynamic system recognition (DSR) for identifying the processor and platform family and licensing tier, and those same tables were the basis for cooperative sharing of the same box with Galaxy; multiple “guests” with no separate hypervisor. The SRM console and the “guests” all cooperated, using those tables.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/retrocomputers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputers</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/digitalequipmentcorporation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>digitalequipmentcorporation</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/alpha" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>alpha</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/alphaserver" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>alphaserver</span></a></p>
Stephen Hoffman<p>If you're interested in owning your own desktop-sized <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AlphaServer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AlphaServer</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DS10" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DS10</span></a> server, one of the resellers has acquired a whole pile of them, and is offering them for USD$1000 plus whatever add-ons you might want to include.</p><p>This is a reasonable price for an EV6-class Alpha.</p><p><a href="https://www.islandco.com/hp-alphaserver/hp-alphaserver-ds10/alphaserver-ds10-600mhz-special-cto-server" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">islandco.com/hp-alphaserver/hp</span><span class="invisible">-alphaserver-ds10/alphaserver-ds10-600mhz-special-cto-server</span></a></p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/VSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VSI</span></a> has <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OpenVMS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenVMS</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Alpha" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Alpha</span></a> hobbyist licenses available at no cost, as well.</p><p>This while we're waiting for the VSI OpenVMS x86-64 compilers and related tooling to become available.</p>
Ubuntu Peronista<p><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/lineart" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lineart</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/DS20" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DS20</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/AlphaServer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AlphaServer</span></a></p>
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