cvs.sr.ht when
I think we need to mirror OSSP before it goes offline forever
@mirabilos you're old so you probably love CVS. do you have a favourite CVS-to-git importer?
lol the cvs2git site linked in https://git-scm.com/docs/git-cvsimport doesn't respond at all
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for IAFA-DESCRIPT (220 bytes)
Description:
This site is the official Internet FTP server of the OSSP project.
Its location is Munich, Germany (Longitude 48 16 N / Latitude 11 26 E)
Internet connection is provided by a 10Mbit/s link.
10Mbps 
(ls (which, despite this being FTP, looks like actual ls -l lol), says May 30 2000)
this is the flakiest FTP server on the planet. im gonna fucking die
i can semi-consistently get one request out of it, unless it's ls then it's a quarter
okay, lftp gets one solid request per connection, and its mirror command works so far..... and it died while writing this
active-mode FTP from my router works through a dozen EADDRINUSE retries per file. amazing stuff
$ git -C ossp-uuid.git/ log
commit e83b6b64d1d9215bc38f12798cc1aad41dd33559 (HEAD -> master)
Author: rse <>
Date: Sat Jul 5 12:58:24 2008 +0000
remove OSSP uuid from CVS -- it is now versioned controlled in a Monotone repository
$ git -C ossp-uuid.git/ ls-tree HEAD
$
yes he removed everything and didn't link the monotone repo. naturally https://monotone.ca has been unchanged for like a decade, and package removed since buster
last monotone-commits post 2010-10. but! monotone-devel thread from 2024: https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2024-02/msg00000.html
holy hell they made PHP but for perl?? https://git.sr.ht/~nabijaczleweli/ossp-eperl
dont worry they also made an actual hell
OSSP due - Dynamic User Environment
OSSP due is a unified and dynamic GNU Bash shell and Vim editor user
environment providing reusable functionalities which proofed to be
useful in practice.
https://git.sr.ht/~nabijaczleweli/ossp-due
I had to read through all of these to come up with repository descriptions, so here's some more ones i liked:
OSSP sugar -- The Markup Language With Invisible Syntactic Sugar
OSSP sugar is a markup language and corresponding processing tool for
writing technical documentation that uses a mostly invisible markup
language (so-called "syntactic sugar" in compiler construction folk
terminology).
bro WHAT are you TALKING about (this actually appears to be an early markdown/rST-style system: https://git.sr.ht/~nabijaczleweli/ossp-sugar/tree/5adc722e/item/srml2sxml#L10)
OSSP svs - Stupid/Silly/Simple Versioning System
its incredible what mfs did to themselves before they had git, also
case "$cmd" in
v|vi|vim | e|em|ema|emac|emacs )
always execs ${EDITOR-vi} (https://git.sr.ht/~nabijaczleweli/ossp-svs/tree/trunk/item/svs.sh)
OSSP val - Value Access
OSSP val is a flexible name to value mapping library for ISO-C
variables. It allows one to access ISO-C variables through name
strings, [...]
what the fuck is an "ISO C variable" (this is actually a std::map<string, any>, but not very good https://git.sr.ht/~nabijaczleweli/ossp-val/tree/trunk/item/val.h)
OSSP cfg is a ISO-C library for parsing arbitrary C/C++-style configuration files
...parsing what? this appears to actually be a grammar compiler, unclear how this is configuration-related https://git.sr.ht/~nabijaczleweli/ossp-cfg/tree/trunk/item/cfg.pod
this also makes me the upstream for src:eperl, src:iselect, and src:osspsa. 4/54 after 20 years is pretty good though
of COURSE this shit is not UTF-8 lol
i have the usual Jörg, of course, but the remark on 81 (http://cvs.ossp.org/tktview?tn=81,4) expresses '—' as 0x97 somehow?
lol, file(1) guesses ISO-8859 but this website is somehow CP1252 
aand i've done more upstream development than anyone in the past 15 years lol https://todo.sr.ht/~nabijaczleweli/ossp/205
I've instrumented the shart list importer
Error ("<20020828091907.W2689@canonware.com>") reading In-Reply-To: mail: missing '<' in msg-id
Error ("<20020730130258.A71796@canonware.com>") reading In-Reply-To: mail: missing '<' in msg-id
<20020703134036.GC1464@dt4.dev.de.cw.net> unknown charset: unknown charset: message: unhandled charset "iso-8859-1"
Error ("<20020523115704.D22880@dev14.dev.de.cw.net>") reading In-Reply-To: mail: missing '<' in msg-id
and indeed,
> In-Reply-To: <3D6BE829.CEEA7B8C@packetdesign.com>; from archie@packetdesign.com on Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:59:21PM -0700
bruh.
the ISO8859 encoding thing is much worse because it doesn't affect like 5 mails and i can edit the spool manually to turn "; from" into "(from)", it affects 5000
amazing, anonymously importing "github.com/emersion/go-message/charset" automatically decodes non-UTF-8 mails
and it seems like the listssrht api program already does this(?)
@nabijaczleweli isnt monotone the dvcs that doesn't consent to so much as breathe until you give it a 2048-bit rsa key
@atax1a no clue, you've witnessed my entire experience with monotone on this very page. but the "manual with tutorial" at https://www.monotone.ca/monotone.html starts with explaining the RSA cryptosystem, so that's probably it yeah
@nabijaczleweli eperl is still a thing? Woah.
@mirabilos and inst=547/vote=28 which is crazy. too me
@nabijaczleweli i think cfg is meant to be like, you write your c-like grammar for your config, and it builds you a config object? i guess
@atax1a i mean probably something to that effect but bro belabours that point for paragraph after paragraph and doesn't really explain it well