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éric 🚲 🇪🇺 :emacs:So today I ran across yet another attempt (zulip) to re-invent USENET newsgroups and IRC. Sigh.<a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/USENET" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#USENET</a> <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IRC</a> <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/NNTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NNTP</a>

OCTADEYou might enjoy <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Usenet</a>. Articles are almost exclusively plain text. I get annoyed by images and screenshots and videos. I want to read words or listen to words.

Decenta Lyzed[1/3]Why did Usenet fail? <a href="https://aus.social/tags/reddit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#reddit</a> <a href="https://aus.social/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a> <a href="https://aus.social/tags/lemmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lemmy</a> Recently I've seen at attempts to ressurect & promote Usenet.Here is what I think about it in 2025. - Lack of web gateways. - lack of web clients - There are few web "archives" that are just filled with spam & flood from 2000's - lack of high quality discussions, content - no bridges with different protocols - obsure, outdated architecture and design. in era of zeronet And other reasons listed in article below, that's also why people won't use web forums that are not part of wider network (such as <a href="https://aus.social/tags/lemmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lemmy</a> <a href="https://aus.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#activitypub</a> <a href="https://aus.social/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> etc )

OCTADEI am seeking <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=bbs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BBS</a> software for <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> that has built-in <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=nntp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NNTP</a> server and can feed with other <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Usenet</a> servers. I would like some suggestions and reasoning. A BBS with actually secure passwords and authentication would be best, since a lot of them are not secure by modern standards. <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/selfhosting" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@selfhosting@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/retro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@retro@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/usenet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@usenet@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/bbs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bbs@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/linux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@linux@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/nostalgia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nostalgia@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/opensource" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@opensource@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/networks" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@networks@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/infostorm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@infostorm@a.gup.pe</a>

OCTADENEWSCARD: Decentralized, Encrypted Paste Bin via Usenet Newsgroups NEWSCARD Publish and fetch permanent named records via Network News Newscard creates a decentralized, encrypted, named record paste bin. [git repo] <a href="https://codeberg.org/OCTADE/newscard" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://codeberg.org/OCTADE/newscard</a> (use most recent version only) With a single command, name the card, snarf the file and encrypt it. With another command, push the encrypted file to the public network. With another short command, snarf a file from the network. Only users knowing the name [key] of the record will be able to decrypt it. If a strong passphrase is used to name the file, it will be very secure. This is useful for quickly snarfing, encrypting, and publishing a text file: $~: card enc [passphrase] [file] $~: card put [passphrase] It is useful for retrieving a text file with just a key: $~: card get [passphrase] $~: card show [passphrase] If and when you want the general public to access the record just share the keyword. Newscard uses nine (9) (NINE) layers of encryption with OpenSSL chacha20 cipher. Newscard generates 9 each of: cipher keys, salts, key iteration parameters. It would be nice if something like this were added to the ActivityPub protocol, such that keyword[@]host.url would do the same thing. Then secret text records could be stored securely for later retrieval or revelation. <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=newscard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NewsCard</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=pastebin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pastebin</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Usenet</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=nntp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NNTP</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=networknews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetworkNews</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Encryption</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=cryptography" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Cryptography</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=messaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Messaging</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=anonymity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Anonymity</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=protocols" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Protocols</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeSoftware</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=blackhackjack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BlackHackJack</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=censorship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Censorship</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=retro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Retro</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=infosec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#InfoSec</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=ciphers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ciphers</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=codes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Codes</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/infostorm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@infostorm@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/crypto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@crypto@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/infosec" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@infosec@a.gup.pe</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/selfhosting" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@selfhosting@a.gup.pe</a>

SantiagoUsenet Undernet <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/undernet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#undernet</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/uruguay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#uruguay</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#news</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/newsgroups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#newsgroups</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/noticias" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#noticias</a>

OCTADESince the passing of Retro Guy some volunteers have started a project to continue the Rocksolid Light legacy with a new NNTP server coded in golang. The new platform is named, 'Pug Leaf' after Retro Guy's avatar of a little pug holding a leaf in its maw. <a href="https://rocksolid-us.pugleaf.net/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://rocksolid-us.pugleaf.net/</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=nntp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NNTP</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Usenet</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=rocksolidlight" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RocksolidLight</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=retro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Retro</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=pugleaf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PugLeaf</a>

JohanSFor some reason (peer pressure), I revived <a href="https://nl.news-admin.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://nl.news-admin.org/</a>. And then I also started up peering for nl.* on my newsserver again. And it is not even September yet! <a href="https://mendeddrum.org/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a> <a href="https://mendeddrum.org/tags/tinc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tinc</a>

Anthk<a href="https://paquita.masto.host/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a> it's still full of nerds with good geek/tech content away from VC's and shitty companies advertising AI bullshit at "Hacker" news. I can post from anywhere, and I have no bullshit blocks a la HN telling me I can't comment for a while because "I'm posting too fast".

RxBradLooks like DrunkenSlug registrations are open this morning. It's a great NZB platform for finding downloads on Usenet. (You'll also need a Usenet subscription to get access to the actual downloads.) Works great (way better than torrents) with self-hosted UseNet apps like SABnzbd, along with Prowlarr, Sonarr, and Radarr.<a href="https://drunkenslug.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://drunkenslug.com/</a><a href="https://mastodon.rxbrad.com/tags/Usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Usenet</a> <a href="https://mastodon.rxbrad.com/tags/SelfHosted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SelfHosted</a> <a href="https://mastodon.rxbrad.com/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SelfHosting</a> <a href="https://mastodon.rxbrad.com/tags/Plex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Plex</a> <a href="https://mastodon.rxbrad.com/tags/Jellyfin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Jellyfin</a> <a href="https://mastodon.rxbrad.com/tags/Sonarr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sonarr</a> <a href="https://mastodon.rxbrad.com/tags/Radarr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Radarr</a> <a href="https://mastodon.rxbrad.com/tags/Lidarr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Lidarr</a> <a href="https://mastodon.rxbrad.com/tags/SabNZBD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SabNZBD</a> <a href="https://mastodon.rxbrad.com/tags/Prowlarr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Prowlarr</a>

BrettRandom things I miss: my old <a href="https://aus.social/tags/Usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Usenet</a> .sig file.Posting isn't the same without some pithy little bon mot or song lyric at the end.

Stéphane Bortzmeyer<a href="https://amicale.net/@cquest" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@cquest</a> <a href="https://mast.eu.org/@pb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@pb</a> Je me souviens de alt.binaries.pictures.erotica<a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/teamVieux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#teamVieux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/Usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Usenet</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/d%C3%A9centralisation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#décentralisation</a>

Aubreader MastoWhy did Usenet fail? – Terence Eden’s Blog<a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/06/why-did-usenet-fail/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/06/why-did-usenet-fail/</a>This is annecdata - not a serious academic study. Adjust your expectations accordingly. When I first got online, the World Wide Web was still in its infancy - so CompuServe was my gateway to the Internet. I loved their well organised chat room. A couple of clicks and I could be discussing Babylon 5 with people in another country, downloading wallpapers, and uploading my poor attempts at…<a href="https://mas.to/tags/Usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Usenet</a>

Got Root :hispagatos: # :idle:more details in the <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a> annoucement here <a href="https://news.novabbs.org/computers/article-flat.php?id=445&group=alt.2600#445" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://news.novabbs.org/computers/article-flat.php?id=445&group=alt.2600#445</a>

Got Root :hispagatos: # :idle:🔴⚫ #2600 <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/Madrid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Madrid</a> Hacker Meeting - June 6! 🔴⚫📅 Friday June 6 @ 21:00 📍 La Pianola Bar, Lavapies 🚇 Metro L3 LavapiesJoin us to hack for a more humane, transparent & decentralized future! 💻✊Topics: <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/Meshtastic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Meshtastic</a>, <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/Reticulum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Reticulum</a>, <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/learn2hack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#learn2hack</a> mentoring, <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/usenet_reborn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet_reborn</a> & Telefonica pay phones🔗 <a href="https://2600.madrid" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://2600.madrid</a> 💬 Matrix: <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/2600_Madrid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#2600_Madrid</a>:hispagatos.org<a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/hacking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hacking</a> <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/hackers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hackers</a> <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/hackerculture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hackerculture</a> <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#privacy</a> <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a> <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#rust</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/@2600" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@2600@mastodon.online</a> <a href="https://lemmy.world/c/2600" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@2600@lemmy.world</a>

tTh<a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/@bortzmeyer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bortzmeyer</a> : Le grand retour en force de <a href="https://mastodon.tetaneutral.net/tags/Usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Usenet</a> ?

pglpm<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@johncarlosbaez" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@johncarlosbaez</a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/@CGM" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@CGM</a> There's a great guide here: <<a href="https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet</a>>, it worked for me.<a href="https://c.im/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a>

pglpmThrough the pages of John Baez <<a href="https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez</a>> (see also <<a href="https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com</a>>) I've seen that the sci.physics usenet newsgroup, especially sci.physics.research, always had quite interesting physics discussions; see for instance <<a href="https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics</a>>.Finally I managed to join, but it looks like I'm late to the party. Lots of spam and very insulting posts on sci.physics, and sci.physics.research (luckily a moderated group) seems to have very little activity – unless I'm misjudging the levels of activity of some years ago.So I'd like to ask <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@johncarlosbaez" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@johncarlosbaez</a> (when/if he has time): what happened to these newsgroups? I'd be curious to hear the story. And which other similar newsgroups or venues are available today? Probably I'm not the only one with these wonderings. Cheers!<a href="https://c.im/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/johncarlosbaez" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#johncarlosbaez</a>

Got Root :hispagatos: # :idle:Hello <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/hackers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hackers</a> and <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/DIY" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DIY</a> friends,Im away from <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a>,the reality is that never liked microblogging, I was one of the pionners because I do like the open/decentralized internet,but now I'm using <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a> a LOT & the new cool <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/hacker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hacker</a> playgrounds <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/nomadnet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#nomadnet</a> <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/reticulum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#reticulum</a> <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/LoRa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LoRa</a> <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/meshtastic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#meshtastic</a>,offgrid,decentralized,meshes Come chat @ 'hispagatos HQ' @ 4ce9566abcec9619f67d181c5959dfdc in reticulum/nomadnet in <a href="https://hispagatos.space/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a> 2600.* and hispagatos.* comp.lang.go alt.comp.lang.rust newsgroups rek2.hispagatos.org

Profoundly NerdyBack in the day when 40 column displays were common on microcomputers, was email and newsgroup participation with 80 column systems awkward? Be that FidoNet and Echomail or the real ARPANET / Internet if (somehow) available. By the time I was connecting to BBS systems I had access to an 80 column machine, so I don't personally recall.<a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#retrocomputing</a> <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usenet</a> <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#email</a> <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/bbs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bbs</a>

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