The ol' tealeg 🐡<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://polymaths.social/@rl_dane" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>rl_dane</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@graves501" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>graves501</span></a></span> guess it's a namespace collision - rio in <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>plan9</span></a> is a graphical environment, not a terminal.</p>
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R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@graves501" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>graves501</span></a></span></p><p>Isn't rio from <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Plan9</span></a>?</p>
Neloj<p><span>I'm trying a compositor called Wio, i never used Plan9 but if this is how Rio works on Plan9 then i like it, keeping in mind that Wio doesn't implement all the features that Rio has. The most interesting thing about the design of Wio is that when you make a window by defult opens a terminal and in there you run your graphical program, so i'm thinking, wouldn't be neat that you could switch between the terminal and graphical preview, and and then came to my mind "why not allow to do that on the compositor it self" because sometimes happens that the compositor breaks and you are locked in the sence that you can't change to another tty.<br>Idk i think that would be neat.<br></span><a href="https://hollow.raccoon.quest/tags/wayland" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#wayland</a> <a href="https://hollow.raccoon.quest/tags/unix" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#unix</a> <a href="https://hollow.raccoon.quest/tags/plan9" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#plan9</a></p>
izzy<p>all operating systems suck uniquely. find the one that sucks the least for you and use it. also, shut up about it.</p><p>EDIT: "shut up about it", is about OS proselytizing. share all you like, just don't pressure me to use what you use. it'd be hypocritical to say this as I certainly don't shut up about my love for OpenBSD.</p><p><a href="https://ieji.de/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/OpenBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenBSD</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeBSD</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/NetBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NetBSD</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/Illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Illumos</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>plan9</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/9front" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>9front</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/MacOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MacOS</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/DOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DOS</span></a></p>
LFA<p>There are more shells than Bash and I'm curious to see the % of how many people uses wich one of the more or less classic shells. Choose your preferred one.</p><p><a href="https://hostux.social/tags/UNIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UNIX</span></a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BSD</span></a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeBSD</span></a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/NetBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NetBSD</span></a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/OpenBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenBSD</span></a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/Plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Plan9</span></a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/GNU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GNU</span></a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a></p>
KaiXinIt's true on <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> it seems that everyone is running some <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#unix</a> stuff, be it <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> or <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> or even <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#plan9</a> and alike. In real life people see your screen and ask "hey you're running <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=macos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MacOS</a> or what?" and you say "oh no it's Linux " and 90% of time they are like "what?say that again??" 😂😂😂<br>
Martin Bishop<p>Plan 9 was developed at Bell Labs in the late 1980s. It was brilliant but alien: its design centred on a mouse-first workflow, which felt unnatural to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Unix</span></a> users. Despite elegant ideas like a unified namespace and the 9P protocol, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Plan9</span></a> broke too far from Unix conventions<br>Via @unix_byte</p>
Martin Bishop<p>Plan 9 came with its own shell, 'rc', written by Tom Duff: no aliases (functions only), no export, no magic variables, test command ([ ... ]) replaced by simpler expressions, no fi, done, esac (uses braces like C). Byron Rakitzis implemented rc for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Unix</span></a>:<br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Plan9</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RCshell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RCshell</span></a><br>Via @unix_byte<br><a href="https://github.com/rakitzis/rc" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">github.com/rakitzis/rc</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Justine SmithiesBrowsing the web with <code>mothra</code> certainly is interesting and actually brings back memories of a web gone by. My website isn't perfect when viewed with <code>mothra</code> but I can 100% say that <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.decentralised.social/users/wezm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@wezm@mastodon.decentralised.social</a></span> views perfectly just like the good old days. <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=9front" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#9front</a> <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#plan9</a><br>
Justine SmithiesI honestly haven't a plan but just had to see for myself. 🤪<br>Yes I made a mistake in the photo as the first line should have been:<br><br><code>echo hwaccel on > /dev/vgactl</code><br><br><a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=9front" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#9front</a> <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#plan9</a><br>
Jochem Kossen<p>It also made me curious about other text editors which don't require configuration, and don't tempt users to write hundreds of lines of configuration, but still offer powerful functionality.</p><p>Any recommendations for open source, opinionated, lightweight, UTF-8 supporting editors that don't break?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/plaintext" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>plaintext</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/editor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>editor</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>programming</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>plan9</span></a></p>
Jochem Kossen<p>Watched <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP1xVpMPn8M" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=dP1xVpMPn8M</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> about the Acme editor.</p><p>It seems so inside-out from Emacs, so opinionated and so well thought-out on the other hand. Using text itself as commands / functionality, very interesting.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/plaintext" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>plaintext</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/editor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>editor</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>programming</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>plan9</span></a></p>
cgnarneMy local pub has a food printer that can print on a pint of Guinness<br><br><a href="https://hj.9fs.net?t=plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#plan9</a><br>
ICM<p>Why slack when you can plan?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>plan9</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>unix</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/vintage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>vintage</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/floppydisk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>floppydisk</span></a></p>
R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://polymaths.social/@amin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>amin</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://merveilles.town/@mccd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mccd</span></a></span></p><p>Also, <code>caldavfs</code> is totally fine as a name.</p><p>Especially if you're targeting <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Plan9</span></a></p>
@debacle that's about right! As to servers/relays: there are a lot of well working alternative stacks -- #chatmail core even runs with some #Plan9 mail server stack apart from the many classic email server implementations. Replacing Rust Core is possible but considerable work. Beating its maturity and cross-platform portability would require a serious effort. Not impossible, though. FWIW most other messenger projects (#Signal, #matrix, etc.) are trying to move towards Rust.
Thanks to @aap there is now a Knight TV for Plan 9!
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