@jpsays @qlp @Natanox @wyatt sadly more and more #distros are axing #i486 and up support...

• I get why espechally on a #Desktop, as 4 GB (technically more with PAE but that was always fiddly) isn't good enough even for frugal normies that don't multitask much due to #Enshittification and #Bloat.

Still, for some #EdgeNetworking and #EdgeComputing even a #Pi0W should be plenty to connect sensors and #InternetOfShit devices...

For those who don't know the size of the problem:

In 2006 I bought a new [entry level] Computer with 256 MB of RAM and a single-core P4 Celeron with 2,8 GHz.

• This thing ran #WindowsXP and #NeedForSpeedMostWanted just fine.

• Nowadays it would crash trying to open #Slack even on a minimalist #Linux distro like @bunsenlabs even when using @dillo ...

And now imagine that some folks have to use #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, #Telegram, #Signal, #WhatApp, #WeChat, #QQ and #LineMessenger at the same time, and you can imagine that this will make entry-level desktops already scream harder than if someone were to loop the Lost Coast benchmark on them...

• The #bloat of modern #WebApps is just the socially accepted equivalent to #Cryptojacking desktops and driving some phat #SuperUselessVehicle just to get less than a kg of groceries at a walking distance supermarket.

@Crell @alina It's not an ignorant rant.

• I've made peace with it, just as I've made peace never touching #Windows ever again.

You may call me an "opinionated asshole" from your point of view, but I sincerely wish I was wrong.

• Look where all the absurd complexity got us: #NSAbook, #JavaScript-based #malware that mines #shitcoins and #tracking #cookies.

The real cost doesn't come through to #consoomers except as #ReducedLifecycle due to #bloat.

But then again what do I expect from a coward doing the reply & block - combo, because confronting the fact that people got burned out by shit like PHP would mean admitting mistakes, and we can't have that as a fanboy.

@bagder Problem with that is (besides occasional bugfixes), most people including myself would see #curl to be functionally complete and anything "nice to have" would be considered not worth the balooning in #complexity and #size.

• I mean, does curl need to be able to do #BitTorrent (magnet:), #IPFS (ipfs://) or god forbid #blockchain (i.e. #EVM) support?

• Do you really want to integrate @torproject / #Tor support natively into curl when using #HTTP (localhost:8118) and #SOCKS5 (localhost:9050) #proxy allows for the same and doesn't necessitate having to handle and ingest Tor arguments as well??

In fact if #toybox didn't have a #wget implementation that I could use for OS/1337 I would've merely chosen tiny-curl -o as a global alias or if #tinycurl wasn't an option, curl -o instead.

• Maybe someone who wants to have said functionality like tor support built-in will go and IDK make i.e. #neocurl or sth. along those lines or build something like #ethcurl or #torcurlor #ipfscurl or whatever...

That being said I am glad curl isn't solely maintained by you but has other contributors (give them a shoutout!) but I also am glad you maintain that vital software that most "#TechIlliterate #Normies" most likely never heard of but propably use on a daily basis as part of all the #tech they use to #consume media with...

• I consider curl to be "the #vim of downloaders" (tho that's kinda insulting and limiting since curl is more than just a downloader and more intuitive than vim) with wget being "the #vi of downloaders" (tho wget is even simpler to use than vi)...

Either way, curl is awesome...

@hj @radmin @SuperDicq Not really, at least not client-side.

#JS to me is #malware for the mist part and #bloat at best.

@Strandjunker
Also: farts.
Biggest Loser of All Time.
#BLOAT

@lukaso666
that ain't minimal
#bloat

@giffengrabber @gorky #bloat is the beginning of #enshittification.

If you like that, WhatsApp is for you.

Have a good one, guys, don't bother with your further impressions.