@gentoobro @Dudebro @Aly @James_Dixon @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @Hoss we might get there but in order to do that we need to get rid of the
#TPP and other such treaties which will interfere with that
ocean shipping *does* contribute to the problem and should be dealt with but
1) putting a dumb tarriff only solves the problem if the shipping companies don't adapt
2) most of the problem isn't shipping. And certainly not per capita.
And the ban on private jets might be ok for other reasons (covid) but honestly that's an extreme measure that, again, we might get there but we should use less extreme measures first (making sure private jets pay carbon tax on the fuel they use, which we do in canada, and which the conservatives here freak out about).