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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gruene.social/@max" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>max</span></a></span> <br>To <a href="https://gruene.social/@max/113872018769294131" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">quote you directly</a>:</p><blockquote><p>"[...] easy to use solutions that are at the same time private and secure. [...]"</p></blockquote><ul><li>The fact that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> requires <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> which more often than not <em>cannot be legally acquired anonymously</em> makes it not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/private" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>private</span></a>. </li></ul><p>It is easier, faster, cheaper and overall simpler to get someone setup with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> espechally if they don't have a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ID</span></a> to acquire a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a>. </p><p>And if you go and say, <em>"Just buy a [insert country here] [e]SIM!"</em> and expect <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a> without a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CreditCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CreditCard</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayPal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PayPal</span></a> or other means of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnlinePayment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnlinePayment</span></a> to fiddle around with some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> if not having to get some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIMcard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIMcard</span></a> because they can only afford to maintain one SIM and can't spend triple-digits on a new devices then you <em>completely missed the point</em>!</p><ul><li>I can much faster and easier get TechIlliterates setup show them around - either in a <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.earth/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@mastodon.earth</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@chaos.social</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoParty</span></a> - style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/classroom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>classroom</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/seminar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>seminar</span></a> or 1:1 tutoring than I can <em>legally acquire and activate a new SIM in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a></em> [since 07/2017]...</li></ul><p>It's not that I expect anyone to get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiterate</span></a> within minutes, but similar to setting up a cordless DECT phone it's something one has to do once in 5 years and just have them put the password in a safe spot to retain...</p> <p>Point is that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WontFix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WontFix</span></a> their setup and that was evidently clear even before <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> succeeded <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MoxieMarlinspike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MoxieMarlinspike</span></a>: Their entire operation has a <em>distinct <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a> stench</em> as it's an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/unsustainable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>unsustainable</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurning</span></a> party!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> and the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NOBUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NOBUS</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOBUS#Criticism" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">hegemony</a> ain't something that just got executed now (neither was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a>!)... </li></ul><p>A counterexample on how this could've been done are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> and other <em>truly <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a></em> as in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MultiVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MultiProvider</span></a> standards. </p><ul><li><p><em>NOTHING</em> compells Signal to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">demand PII</a>, run a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)#In-app_payments" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">aka.</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> that even seasoned <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiterates</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoBros" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoBros</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">can't setup properly</a>, and in fact Signal using <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)#Controversial_use" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">phone numbers makes it trivial to discriminate against users and easier for them to identify them</a>!</p></li><li><p>If <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113869305765533809" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">my reasoning</a> didn't resonate with you, then try helping i.e. undocumented migrants aka. <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SansPapier" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SansPapier</span></a>|s"</em> to get setup with it without violating laws and/or ToS and/or needing an imported SIM which I'm shure most folks don't have on hand!</p></li></ul><p>Whereas it's trivial to get people setup on <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/xmpp.servers.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">one of many XMPP servers I've personally tested</a>!</p><ul><li>Not to mention clients like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> are way more user-friendly and unlike Signal can also work perfectly fine over <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>, including <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionServices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionServices</span></a> as endpoints. </li></ul><p>AFAIK Signal doesn't even have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> / <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.onion" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><code>.onion</code></a> for their Website, much less any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/API" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>API</span></a> enpoints to use it with!</p><ul><li>Them relying on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> is just something that makes them even <em>more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sus</span></a></em> as there is <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#Controversies" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">no legitimate reason</a></em> to use a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RogueISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RogueISP</span></a> like that.</li></ul> <p>You're free to also provide evidence and supporting data to your arguments, rather then <em>neighsaying</em> against <em>proven to be more secure and reliable [by virtue of decentralization]</em> options like XMPP+OMEMO and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME. </p><ul><li>What gets my blood boiling is the constant <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/disinfo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>disinfo</span></a> by <a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/113868777937162686" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Signal</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/113869169340313254" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fanboys</a> like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> who sell it like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DigitalSnakeoil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalSnakeoil</span></a> akin to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AntivirusSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AntivirusSoftware</span></a>, because it's at best <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechPopulism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechPopulism</span></a>"</em> and at worst <a href="https://infosec.space/@agturcz@circumstances.run/113868748895262202" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">will mislead "TechIlliterates"</a> with a <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113868987217053362" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">false sense of security</a>, which in turn puts more users at risk.</li></ul><p>The <em>proper fix</em> is to actually <em>assess the situation</em> and acknowledge the <em>risks and limitations</em> as well as the very nature of communications, which means <em>upgrading later</em> is exponentially more painful, thus getting people <em>properly setup once</em> is way easier.</p><ul><li>Just because <em>WE</em> [ or rather <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> in this case ] rather <em>privilegued enough</em> to not be <em>hatecrimed in their current location</em> doesn't mean this is the case for everyone. And having places like Signal rely on a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CDN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CDN</span></a>"</em> is just another <em>red flag</em> to me because questions like <a href="https://circumstances.run/@agturcz/113866980398547492" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">this one</a> just don't arise with <a href="http://monocles.chat" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">monocles.chat</a> as people can just exercise proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> and just use Tor!</li></ul><p>Speaking of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a>: That business is at least <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sustainable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sustainable</span></a> because it's funded by users <a href="https://store.monocles.eu/produkt/monocles-starter-account/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">(€2 p.m.)</a> which they can <a href="https://monocles.eu/more/#payment-section" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">pay anonymously</a></p>
Jennifer Morency :mastodon:<p>US Government Has Heavy Burden to Justify <a href="https://toot.community/tags/TikTok" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TikTok</span></a> Ban, <a href="https://toot.community/tags/EFF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EFF</span></a> Tells Appeals Court <a href="https://www.eff.org/press/releases/government-has-extremely-heavy-burden-justify-tiktok-ban-eff-tells-appeals-court" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">eff.org/press/releases/governm</span><span class="invisible">ent-has-extremely-heavy-burden-justify-tiktok-ban-eff-tells-appeals-court</span></a> “The First Amendment protects not only TikTok’s US users, but TikTok itself, which posts its own content and makes editorial decisions about what user content to carry and how to curate it for each individual user,” the brief argues. (A lawyer cited by The Reg notes today's SCOTUS NetChoice non-ruling may limit TikTok's defense: <a href="https://v.gd/Zu9v0o" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">v.gd/Zu9v0o</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> ) <a href="https://toot.community/tags/censorship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>censorship</span></a> <a href="https://toot.community/tags/NOBUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NOBUS</span></a> <a href="https://toot.community/tags/uspol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>uspol</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@Radical_EgoCom" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Radical_EgoCom</span></a></span> also known as <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfacism</span></a> in retaliation to the slightest threat to their <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/hegemony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hegemony</span></a> aka. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NOBUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NOBUS</span></a> - <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/CyberImperialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CyberImperialism</span></a> as we can't deny since <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PRISM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PRISM</span></a> was made public by <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Snowden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Snowden</span></a>. </p><p>Nevertheless <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NSAbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NSAbook</span></a> and the PRISM program as well as it's <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GAFAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GAFAM</span></a> helpers continue undeterred...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.laurenweinstein.org/@lauren" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>lauren</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@planet4589" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>planet4589</span></a></span> but that would go against their <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/cyberfacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacist</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/hegemony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hegemony</span></a> as we can see with their privatized <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Stasi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Stasi</span></a> 3.0 aka. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PRISM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PRISM</span></a> where <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NSAbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NSAbook</span></a> and all the other <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GAFAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GAFAM</span></a>|s act as agents on behalf of the U.S. Government.</p><p>The sheer fact that <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GAFAMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GAFAMs</span></a> and their products aren't banned in the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> and espechally <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> is a conditionless <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/surrender" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>surrender</span></a> to the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NOBUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NOBUS</span></a> ideology!</p>