@debacle @hadret @profanity @Monal @tigase I've been using #Monal for about a month casually, and as much as I wish I could like it, I feel it's the Achilles heel of the whole #XMPP ecosystem. #iPadOS is left without a really good native XMPP client. It's lackluster at best and occasionally buggy.

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We have the very first screenshots of #Prav iOS app! Thanks to Vaidik who made it and also thanks to #Monal developers for releasing Monal as #FreeSoftware

https://opencollective.com/prav-ios/updates/initial-screenshots-of-the-prav-ios-app

We identified iOS app as a priority for Prav community through a poll and then raised funds to build the app via Open Collective. https://opencollective.com/prav-ios

This is a new model we are experimenting with Prav - individuals collectively setting priority instead of developers, business or govts.

#XMPP, #Conversations, #Monal stickers at #PravConf!

#XMPP enthusiasts out there: what would you say the ultimate Achilles heel of the XMPP ecosystem is, at present? Fragmentation of clients? What?

My sense is that it's this: when one goes to store an XMPP address in one's addressbook, there doesn't seem to be standard way to store an XMPP address. #Android doesn't have that as an allowable field, and #Thunderbird and #Nextcloud have an "Instant Messaging" field, where the type can be set to "XMPP". But are these two compatible with each other when trying to sync between them? Edit: Yes, but there's a catch: *the XMPP address must be prefixed with "xmpp:"*

So "user@foo.bar" is not an OK XMPP address, but "xmpp:user@foo.bar" is.

Then to make matters worse, now there's a wish to change the labeling of "XMPP Address" to "Chat ID": https://gultsch.social/@daniel/114012904576436518

It might be a long time before the address synchy-ness ever works again between Android <-> #Davx5 <-> Nextcloud <->Thunderbird

Note: Android allows a "Jabber" type for an IM address, where you *don't* prefix the address with "xmpp:".

(#DeltaChat gets to gloat hard here, as they have plain-old email addresses)

After taking a closer look at #XMPP clients for the #linux desktop, there's this frustrating "tie" for finding a favorite.

#Dino, which is likeable for being able to do video and audio calls, only has limited support for multi-user chat (complete with fancy moderation tools). These audio and video calls it can do are AMD64-only at this time.

#Gajim, which is likeable for being able to do multi-user chat well (with great moderation tools), alas, can't do audio and video calls to the other XMPP clients (like, say, #Conversations, as they use a newer #WebRTC-based method now).

So there's this strange situation where one is tempted to use both at the same time.

My takeaway is that #Conversations for #Android is the only xmpp client that I would possibly and carefully recommend to family and friends at this time, as it can cover all of the above. (#Monal on #iOS/#MacOS only has "partial" support for Multi-user chat, BTW.)

Yes I'm aware of the existence of Snikket, Quicksy, and Prav. No need to chime in on those.

Me he instalado #Monal @Monal para entrar en el mundo #XMPP. Ahora solo necesito una #instancia en la que meterme. ¿Sugerencias? ¿Ideas?

Cuando concluya os daré mi contacto por aquí para que me tengáis fichado.

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for #Conversations by @daniel and #Monal by @Monal plus:

Linux (desktop/mobile) → #Dino by @dino

Monal 6.4.8 (Build 1012, PR #1345) released.

- Make sure to not enable accounts without password after being restored via iCloud backup
- Improve OMEMO handling when offline
- Fix more background crashes
- Workaround for broken stun/turn on ejabberd < 24.12
- Christmas/winter special

Monal 6.4.6 (Build 989, PR #1288) released.

- Fix regression when connecting solely using old STARTTLS connection method
- Fix crash when being unable to connect while creating new account
- Fix connection problems on slow connections
- Show timestamp of last received push in notification debug menu
- Fix various other crashes

Monal 6.4.5 (Build 982, PR #1258) released.

To see the complete list of bugfixes and improvements, check our releases page: https://github.com/monal-im/Monal/releases/tag/Build_iOS_982

Appstore install links:
https://apps.apple.com/app/id317711500 (iOS)
https://apps.apple.com/app/id1637078500 (macOS)