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@annsev Sorry, aber das ist falsch. Es ist das gleiche Argument, mit dem Rechte ihre Entgleisungen immer rechtfertigen. Krahs Aussage zur SS war auch nur seine Meinung, aber die wurde zurecht skandalisiert.

Das Recht seine Meinung frei zu äußern impliziert kein Recht auf Widerspruchsfreiheit. Und ich finde es steht der liberalen Demokratie sehr gut, dass antisemitische Aussagen nicht widerspruchsfrei bleiben. Egal von #noAfD-Politikern oder #ESC-Acts wie #JJ.

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@Lazarou @RealJournalism

Perhaps I agree with you that 20 votes per person (actually, 20 votes per SIM card, credit card, virtual device, etc.) is a poor voting system.

What voting system should be used?

This is not particularly encouraging:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow%27

The endless debate will continue. We'll soon see what EBU chooses to implement.

en.wikipedia.orgArrow's impossibility theorem - Wikipedia

@j2bryson Exactly! I mean, okay, even if recognize that #Israel lead a massive social media campaign and encouraged people to vote for Yuval, it's not prohibited. there are questions whether it's good, honest and so on, but it is not against the law. The same as voting twenty times for one country is not against the law. Like, I could have voted 20 times for my favorite, #Portugal. Or, as a Ukrainian, I could vote 20 times for #Ukraine because I have a French number and I live in France. Is that honest? Well… I won't judge. I think laws still need to be changed, but it's only my opinion. #Eurovision #ESC #ESC2025

#eurovision #esc actually I don't find it implausible that given the salience of this issue, and that a lot of anti Israel people were boycotting, that more voters favoured that country than any one of the other 15. This is why many real democracies have run offs, in a run off between 2 parties, Austria (or anyone actually in Europe) would have beat Israel by a wide margin. theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2

The Guardian · ‘It is time to ask if the rules allow abuse’: broadcasters call for overhaul of Eurovision voting after Israeli near winBy Martin Belam

Ukrainan euroviisu soi koko ajan päässää-äää-äää!

youtube.com/watch?v=OJ1x2aiL7k

EDIT: Euroviisuissa oli kuudet (6) #sisarukset, joista nämä Ukrainan laulaja ja kitaristi ovat kaksosia. Sen lisäksi sisaruksia oli Irlannilla, Islannilla, Latvialla, Portugalilla ja Saksalla. #Aikamoista!

It's almost funny to see how folks who follow the Eurovision Song Contest tend to use the tag #ESC on mastodon. (The tag most widely used during the show.)

While folks who don't watch and only want to drop some political soundbites tend to use the #eurovision tag without adding other ESC tags.

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@aral If I look at it from a distance, my analysis is that in the world we now live in, it has become impossible to be a-political as even that has itself become political.

For those who gain from a polarized world, not having an opinion is not option any more you are allowed to have.

Even more, there are powers in this world who would have absolutely no issue the #esc goes down because of this as. Do let's all be careful as we could end up doing exactly what they want us to do!

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Ich persönlich hab ja schon die Vermutung aufgestellt, dass Polen so einen Publikumsvotings-"Hack" herausgefunden hat – bzw einfach ihre riesige Diaspora aktiviert, die für das Land ja abstimmen darf, wenn sie selbst in einem anderen Land lebt.

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RTVE (Spanien), RUV (Island), RTBF & VRT (Belgien) fordern von der EBU transparenten Einblick in das Publikumsvoting ihres Landes. Das wird nämlich nicht über die Rundfunkanstalten, sondern direkt die EBU abgewickelt.

Yle (Finnland) fordert Diskussionen, ob Manipulation möglich ist
#esc #eurovision

Der israelische Broadcaster Kan hat vor dem ESC europaweit für eine Youtube-Werbekampagne gezahlt, in der Sängerin Yuval Raphael dazu aufruft, für sie abzustimmen – in der jeweiligen Landessprache der Zusehenden.

Das erbost jetzt mehrere andere Sendeanstalten.
#eurovision #esc #esc2025

Israels Eurovision-bidrag var nummer 17 i popularitet på Spotify, men genom en global högerextrem kampanj (med exempelvis riktade annonser på sociala medier) fick man flest röster.

Folk lyssnade inte ens på låten, utan röstade på israeliska krigsbrott.

Att kalla detta "folkets röst" är ren desinformation. Det annars så populära "påverkansoperation" skulle passa bättre #esc #palestina